Overall, it just sounds like Satchmo isn't what you're looking for.

As for being an ultimate destination systems should be working  
towards, i couldn't disagree more.   If you're talking about one type  
of business, then sure, there's a product type that will fit better  
than others.  But the software should match and solve a business  
problem.  The business shouldn't have to scale up to support a piece  
of software.  Having a giant complex, do everything package and having  
to turn things off if you don't need them is a good indication that  
you need a simpler package.

Griffin Caprio - Founder & President, 1530 Technologies, Inc.
[email protected]
312.371.3869

On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote:

> Well yes, I do want to harvest already working stuff. That only  
> makes sense.
> But OFBiz does do all the above now.
> That generalized framework is already built, and ready to rock and  
> roll.
>
> Mom and pop retailers don't have much money to spend on  
> infrastructure.
> But high volume retailers do. And what they do routinely spend on  
> software would make
> your head spin. I think there is some relatively low-hanging fruit  
> between
> those two extremes......between mom and pop and Cabelas, Land's End,  
> etc.
>
> I'm not going to mention any business names, but I do know of one  
> service
> that is reselling OFBiz for a small fortune--and yet they are still  
> a lot
> cheaper than the proprietary competition.  That was case number two.
> That guy said to me and said "this service is what I need, but I  
> can' t possibly afford what they want."
> I looked at their sales brochures, and at their website, read  
> between the lines and
> came away pretty certain they were selling a product support  
> umbrella on top of
> OFBiz.
>
> I'm not a big fan of Java Servlets programming
> I spent several years doing it, two jobs back (SleepyCat and/or  
> Exist XML database, with Google GWT interface).
> But I know it well enough to go that way, if need be.
>
> I just want to look around a bit longer, before I commit to a  
> development direction
> for the next year or so.  I don't see my hoped for functionality as  
> a grandiose plan.
> I see it as the ultimate destination all store-front systems should  
> be working towards.
>
> I'll drop out and be quiet now.
> Satchmo looks cool.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Griffin Caprio 
> <[email protected] 
> > wrote:
> One customer does not a entire niche make.  It sounds like a  
> standard VAR scenario, you being the VAR.  You'd augment what exists  
> ( satchmo, other COTS system, et.c.. ) with some value and resell it  
> to him.  I you find yourself picking satchmo and doing several of  
> these installations, then it might make sense to kick some generic  
> stuff back to satchmo for inclusion.
>
> You should always harvest working stuff to build a framework /  
> general solution, rather that start out with a grand plan, then go  
> looking for customers that fit what you've built.
>
> ( http://martinfowler.com/bliki/HarvestedFramework.html )
>
> - Griffin
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Griffin Caprio 
>> <[email protected] 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I think that's a gross generalization.  A large percentage of people
>> don't even sell products with bar codes.
>>
>> Being a major development doesn't mean it's a good one.  I like
>> Satchmo for what it does and the fact that it's configurable.  My  
>> non-
>> technical users love it for the Django Admin system that makes  
>> product
>> management & order management a snap.  It Just Works.
>>
>> - Griffin
>>
>>
>> I didn't meant to denigrate the good work that's already been done.
>> I'm just trying to learn what Satchmo can and can't do.
>> I should have waited 'til I knew more.
>>
>> I asked about customer tracking and bar code reading because I have
>> an outstanding request for that right now, from someone I know  
>> personally--
>> a guy who has a good bricks-and-mortar store now, combined with a  
>> poorly-performing
>> shopping cart. He sees online sales as his only avenue towards  
>> growth,
>> because although the walk-in trade is lucrative, it's been static  
>> for several
>> years now.
>>
>> He wants a soup-to-nuts system, that builds an inventory database  
>> with
>> a bar code reader, that integrates with a shopping cart, that  
>> provides him
>> with point and click customer tracking and report writing.....in  
>> order to identify his best customers,
>> best performing products, etc.
>>
>> The money he is (almost) prepared to spend is amazing. I don't know  
>> enough
>> to supply him with what he needs just yet.  But it makes me think  
>> this is a lucrative
>> niche that needs filling.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> /*  Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh  >--oO0> */
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> /*  Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh  >--oO0> */
>
> >


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