Yes, the single biggest problem with Livesettings is that some settings
require a reload or a restart.  I'd love to see that fixed, at least via an
admin message after update.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, C <[email protected]> wrote:

> I noticed an odd chicken/egg situation with LiveSettings, but I got
> too busy to look further at it.
>
> 1) The loading of certain modules are controlled by values in
> LiveSettings.
> 2) Items with value in LiveSettings change depending on which modules
> are loaded.
> 3) For added misery, URLs were (and may still be) one of the things
> that depended on LiveSettings.
>
> The side effect is that the settings appear from the command line
> (python and everything satchmo are loaded fresh with the new live
> settings), but don't appear within a running satchmo unless it's told
> to reload everything.
>
> The brute force solution might be to raise a signal when certain live
> settings are changed and have the handler reload relevant things.  But
> it gives me a headache just thinking about it.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Dukes
>
>
> On Nov 22, 7:16 pm, "Eric R. Palakovich Carr" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I've been having the same problem and I've found a one-line hack that
> > doesn't touch the Satchmo source code.  From what I can see, the
> > product.config module isn't being loaded in the same order as when you
> > run the development server.  In fact, it isn't being loaded at all
> > before the exception is thrown and that is where the product settings
> > are loaded.
> >
> > So add this to your settings.py
> >
> > # HACK: Fixes SettingNotSet CATEOGORY.SLUG exception that occurs on
> > production
> >
> > import product.config
> >
> > This resolves the issue, but it doesn't solve the root of the bug.
> > I'm new to deploying software using wsgi on Apache, what would be the
> > difference in loading modules between django's development server and
> > mod_wsgi?
> >
> > - Eric Palakovich Carr
> >
> > On Nov 19, 12:22 pm, davis <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > If Gloria's fix solves it, then there must be something broken about
> > > the livesettings configuration module, because 'category' and
> > > 'product' are the default settings in product/config.py, and they
> > > should be returned if those two slugs aren't set in the livesettings
> > > table.
> >
> > > On Nov 3, 11:52 pm, Gloria W <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > My apprentice is playing with this, and he tried this solution, which
> > > > worked. His fix:
> >
> > > > "What I ended up doing was manually adding in the slug values (in the
> > > > form of an extra parameter that specified a default) that should
> > > > havebeen retrieved by the config_value call that was throwing the
> error.
> > > > Here are the changes I made to Satchmo's products/urls/__init__.py:
> >
> > > > # catbase = r'^' + config_value('PRODUCT','CATEGORY_SLUG') + '/'
> > > > catbase = r'^' + config_value('PRODUCT','CATEGORY_SLUG', 'category')
> + '/'
> > > > # prodbase = r'^' + config_value('PRODUCT','PRODUCT_SLUG') + '/'
> > > > prodbase = r'^' + config_value('PRODUCT','PRODUCT_SLUG', 'product') +
> '/'
> >
> > > > After those changes, test2.xxxxxxxxxx.com started working again"
> >
> > > > I am wondering why the slug values weren't there in the first place,
> but
> > > > I haven't had time to look at it just yet.
> >
> > > > Gloria
> >
> > > > > Interestingly enough, I just ran into a somewhat similar error as
> > > > > described in this thread -
> > > > >
> http://groups.google.com/group/satchmo-users/browse_thread/thread/989...
> >
> > > > > If I try the fix that Brian Tol proposes, I think it resolves my
> > > > > issue. It might fix yours. If it does, it would be interesting to
> see
> > > > > if that's the issue. Please let us know.
> >
> > > > > -Chris
> >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Gloria W <[email protected]
> > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > > > >     Did you try running a standalone instance and hitting it
> directly:
> >
> > > > >     python manage.py runserver 0.0.0.0:port_number
> >
> > > > >     so you're eliminating memcache, apache, etc, and you can see if
> > > > >     what you
> > > > >     suspect, the cache, is the true problem?
> >
> > > > >     Gloria
> > > > >     > Anything solutions on this? Has anyone had definitive or even
> > > > >     marginal
> > > > >     > success eliminating the issue? So far, I've followed all
> suggestions
> > > > >     > here (short of moving to another webserver -- gotta stick
> with
> > > > >     Apache/
> > > > >     > WSGI).
> >
> > > > >     > I've been banging my head against the wall for almost a whole
> > > > >     day, but
> > > > >     > I can't get that SettingNotSet Exception to budge.
> >
> > > > >     > Tried multiple different caching setups. Also verified that
> > > > >     everything
> > > > >     > works running under shell and development server. I haven't a
> clue
> > > > >     > what to change in my apache/wsgi configuration. ANY help
> would be
> > > > >     > appreciated.
> >
> > > > >     > Thanks,
> > > > >     > Walter
> >
> > > > >     > On Sep 16, 10:09 am, ruidc<[email protected]
> > > > >     <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:
> >
> > > > >     >> We're using Apache 2.2.13 prefork MPM with mod_wsgi 3.0RC4
> in
> > > > >     daemon
> > > > >     >> mode.
> >
> > > > >     >> We thought file cache was the issue as well, so switched to
> > > > >     memcached
> > > > >     >> via python-memcached with default settings, however this did
> not
> > > > >     >> resolve the issue.
> >
> > > > >     >> It's coming up on startup or on navigating to admin.
> >
> > > > >     >> Are there any other suggestions?
> >
> > > > >     >> I'd hate to move the server over to using Lighttpd or Nginx
> only to
> > > > >     >> face the same problem there, but if that's the only
> suggestion,
> > > > >     then i
> > > > >     >> guess i'll investigate as this problem is a showstopper.
> >
> > > > >     >> or is there a plan to make this section of the code more
> > > > >     resilient to
> > > > >     >> cache problems?
> >
> > > > >     >> Regards,
> > > > >     >> Rui
> >
> > > > >     >> On Sep 16, 5:43 pm, Bruce Kroeze<[email protected]
> > > > >     <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:
> >
> > > > >     >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:50 AM, ruidc<
> [email protected]
> > > > >     <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:
> >
> > > > >     >>>> We're also getting this same problem intermittently, with
> both
> > > > >     >>>> filecache and memcache. We're using postgres as the
> database.
> >
> > > > >     >>>> Corey, did you ever get to the bottom of this?
> > > > >     >>>> Chris, can you offer any other suggestions?
> >
> > > > >     >>> For some reason, when "things are messed up" in your store,
> > > > >     the first
> > > > >     >>> symptom seems to be the dreaded "SettingNotSet" disorder.
> >
> > > > >     >>> In my experience with production sites, the answer is most
> > > > >     likely one of these:
> > > > >     >>> - You are using mod_python.  Stop. Stop now.  mod_python
> > > > >     stinks.  Use
> > > > >     >>> mod_wsgi with Apache or preferably move to using Lighttpd
> or
> > > > >     Nginx.  I
> > > > >     >>> have personally *never* seen a solid, stable, mod_python
> > > > >     production
> > > > >     >>> instance in the last two years.
> >
> > > > >     >>> - Your cache is flaky.  If you are using filecache, there
> could be
> > > > >     >>> permissions issues.
> >
> > > > >     >>> --
> > > > >     >>> Bruce Kroezehttp://www.ecomsmith.com<
> http://www.ecomsmith.com>
> > > > >     >>> It's time to hammer your site into shape.
>
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