Tim Perdue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tapota : > Mathieu Roy wrote: > >> I notice for the second time the usage of the word political in a >> strange sense in Tim Perdue's writings. >> The Savane project have no specific policitical purpose, apart from >> being Free Software. So the only political bind someone can have with >> Savane is being part of the Free Software spirit. In other words, when >> Tim Perdue suggest that Lorenzo is dishonnest because of "political >> ties to the Savane project", he suggests that Lorenzo is dishonnest >> because of political ties to Free Software. One more time, Tim >> Perdue's writing looks like anti-Free Software. I will not comment >> further that point. >> But I am not sure there is any interest in this discussion. > > Of course you are, that's why you started it. > > I have no problem with free software, I'm just not as extremist as you > are
Did I ever met you? On what basis do you feel entitled to express such judgment? What does mean extremism in your mouth? > . Saying I'm "anti-free software" is lame. Well, nobody here described you. I, myself, estimated that your words looks in a very special way. That's pretty different. > Maybe you should run for political office if that's the best you can > come up with. I frankly have no shame from being politically involved, in many areas, not specifically software. If you cannot come up with something else than using the word "politics" as insult, I am not sure to understand why you even replied to this mail. > From what I can tell, you must be one of the people who cannot work > with anyone else Want to get personal now? I was not involved in Savane when the fork was done. But people that were told me they definitely had issues to work with you at that time, if this topic is of interest to you. I personally was hired several time to work with them on software project, and recommandation letters shows they apparently do not share your assumptions about me. > , which is why you created YET ANOTHER FORK of sourceforge for your > own purposes, rather than trying to work with other people. When Savane was started, you were still employee of VA Software that made Sourceforge proprietary, weren't you? I cannot talk about me here because I was not involved in this fork at that time, however, apart from sourceforge that began to be proprietary, was there anything else? The situation was indeed pretty different when you started Gforge. But what you said before about "politics" tend to explain why you never express to Savane people any desire to work together. > I'm busy trying to get other free software projects to MERGE WITH > GFORGE, and your only interest is in forking because you can't > function and work anyone who doesn't share you worldview. > Examples: > Debian-SF -> GForge merge completed a year ago > GBorg -> GForge migration is almost complete at Postgresql.org > XoopsForge -> GForge merge will begin at Company XX shortly Nice. Is it supposed to prove anything? > Savannah -> GForge migration will begin soon What does it have to do with a merge? Do you call that a success story, a succesful platform that get broken for more than a month with decisions being made for no known reasons, against the will of the people that made the platform running almost only by themselves over the year? > Why not work together with other people to make a better open source >project, rather than going off on your own and creating a project >nobody will use? Savane exists since 2000. I don't understand what you are talking about. Apart from that, Savane never rejected any serious proposal of joint work, including proposals from people that do not value free software as I do. > I'm perfectly willing to work together with people who have stronger > free software views than I do, and would consider moving GForge.org > into a "Foundation", as long as that foundation were funded by > multiple people, and not just me as it has been for 1 1/2 years now. Looks more like internal decisions to GForge project. I personnally am more concerned about the story I heard (which may be erroneous, you tell me) that you sell proprietary extensions along with GForge, and that you LGPLize some part that were GPL for similar reasons. I do not think that the way free software should be financed and such thing would prevent prevent joint work, if that's a matter to you, unless it is proven to be an erroneous story. So if it is erroneous, I would be glad to hear it. Apart from that, I have little time to dedicate to these issue right now. What matters to me is to provide a service to free software like gna.org, like savannah.gnu.org was. I have no business plan, no career plans, in computing -- that's just an hobby to which I probably already devoted too much time. Regards, -- Mathieu Roy +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | General Homepage: http://yeupou.coleumes.org/ | | Computing Homepage: http://alberich.coleumes.org/ | | Not a native english speaker: | | http://stock.coleumes.org/doc.php?i=/misc-files/flawed-english | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ _______________________________________________ Savane-dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/savane-dev
