Hi all; I'm sorry to say that, unless there's currently some problem with the mailing list servers that will be cleared up shortly, I think we have to UNDO whatever spam filtering, etc. we currently have installed on lists.gnu.org etc.
Why? Because apparently the hardware we have installed is totally incapable of delivering mail in anything close to an acceptable timeframe with this filtering enabled. My mailing lists have slowed virtually to a standstill. I sent a critical email to my own mailing list ([email protected]) yesterday morning at ~10am, and here it is after 9am the next day, almost 24 hours later, and there is absolutely no sign of that mail anywhere. I'm just now seeing email that was sent on Monday show up in the Mailman moderator web site to be approved: I have no idea how long it will take for the mail to get sent out once it's approved (I approved some last night which I still haven't seen arrive). Since I haven't received any email from the list recently I can't give you any headers, but here are some from the moderated email I approved this morning: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FEeaU-0005Rx-8f for [email protected]; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:34:46 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FEeaS-0005Qy-2W for [email protected]; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:34:45 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FEAkw-0007Lo-1W for [email protected]; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:43:34 -0500 Received: from [209.196.123.143] (helo=covert.brown-ring.iadfw.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDtkD-0005ui-TE for [email protected]; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:33:42 -0500 Received: from cpe-24-28-121-130.houston.res.rr.com ([24.28.121.130] helo=pcdebian) by covert.iadfw.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1FDtnr-0004bh-Pq for [email protected]; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:37:27 -0600 Here we see monty-python.gnu.org gets the message on Monday at 20:33. Then there's an inexplicable delay of 18 hours before it's forwarded from there to lists.gnu.org. Then, it sits on lists.gnu.org for 32 hours before it's re-injected after the "spam-scanned" step, and finally it presumably is posted to the web site for moderator approval last night at 10:30pm, more than 48 hours after it was sent. Sorry, but I'd rather have spam than 48 hour delays for mailing list posts to appear. Unless there is something currently pathological about our setup that will be fixed shortly, this is a classic case of the cure being worse than the disease :-/. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.paulandlesley.org "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist
