Mario, Don't answer. I don't think it would worth it.
I'll write something later as planned. - Sylvain On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:26:53AM +1200, Michal Ludvig wrote: > Nicely put, Eric! > > In fact I'm glad for Mario to come over and wave hands like crazy. Such > a behaviour from (presumably) an official GNU representative discredits > Savannah from consideration of a hosting platform for my future open > source projects. There's still too many platforms to choose from so > thanks, Mario, to narrowing down the list and making the decision a bit > easier ;-) > > Michal > > On 04/19/2010 08:49 AM, Weddington, Eric wrote: > > > > We understand that there are hosting requirements for a project on > > Savannah. I don't even think that we have objections to them, even if we > > find one or two of them a bit silly, and that overall we would be willing > > to comply in some manner. > > > > I do think that there are several other issues here that need to be > > addressed: > > > > 1. Identify who you are. I don't this Mario person at all. It would be > > helpful if he identified who he is, what organization is he from, and what > > the purpose of the email. Otherwise he comes across as every other > > opinionated person in the public, who would be duly ignored if he > > communicated that way. > > > > 2. Try to have reasonably good English. If you're an admin, and speaking as > > an authority from some group, then it is helpful to have at least decent > > spelling. I understand that English is not everyone's first language; I > > regularly work on many free and open source projects with people from all > > around the world with varying degrees of command of the language. But with > > that many spelling errors in the email, I was beginning to wonder if this > > was a troll. > > > > 3. Be specific. One should read Eric Raymond's "How to Ask Questions the > > Smart Way": <http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>. If you're > > going to tell us that something is wrong with the project, then please be > > specific as to what is wrong so we don't have to play "20 questions" to > > guess where it is at. Like all volunteer developers our time is always > > limited, and the more detailed you can be, the easier it is for us to fix > > it. Or maybe if someone is really motivated, patches are always welcome. ;-) > > > > 4. Which brings me to my next point: DO NOT GO AND CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE > > PROJECT WITHOUT PERMISSION! This was *way over the line* and heavy-handed. > > The point is to communicate with us first! Give us time to work out the > > issues and get things fixed. If you come across as a dictator, then that > > makes us feel like our project is not welcome, and we *will* move elsewhere. > > > > Bottom line: If you are unreasonable, then it gives us no incentive to be > > reasonable back. If you are reasonable, we will work towards fixing any > > perceived problems. > > > > Eric Weddington > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: > >> avrdude-dev-bounces+eric.weddington=atmel....@nongnu.org > >> [mailto:avrdude-dev-bounces+eric.weddington=atmel....@nongnu.o > >> rg] On Behalf Of Sylvain Beucler > >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:10 PM > >> To: avrdude-...@nongnu.org > >> Cc: savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org > >> Subject: [avrdude-dev] Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Hosting > >> requirements inavrdude > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Hmm, it looks like the situation somewhat got out of hands. > >> Apologizes if you felt the request was worded unpolitely. > >> > >> We'll discuss the problem and come back to you in a while to clarify > >> the situation. > >> > >> Regards,