Hi,
I'd like to request that you review an opensource project hosted on GNU
Savannah that misleads users and requires a fee to download its source
code. The project in question is a platformer game called reTUX that uses
graphics from the SuperTux game and is hosted at
http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/retux.
I've tried contacting the author to point out that it's a violation of the
GPL to withhold source code (or in this case, to ask money for it), and
it's also rather peculiar to be hosting password protected source code
tarballs on GNU Savannah. Included below is a copy of that email
conversation.

best regards,
Wiktor Jakubczyc


[image: Gmail] *Wiktor Jakubczyc <[email protected]
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*wiktor *<[email protected]> Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:45 PM
To: [email protected]

hi,
i would like to see the source code for your game. unfortunately, you've
password protected the source code and then went so far as to upload
password protected 7z files on gnu savannah. could i see the source code,
please?
w.
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*Julie Marchant *<[email protected]> Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:06 PM
To: wiktor <[email protected]>

Every copy of the game that comes from me includes the full source code. If
you received a binary-only copy from someone else, they are obligated to
provide you with the full corresponding source code. If such a person
doesn't provide the source code, please let me know who it is so I can
contact them about correcting the problem.

If this is not your situation (i.e. you have not received a copy of ReTux
at all), you can get the password by purchasing ReTux here:

http://sites.fastspring.com/retux/product/retux

Or, if you would like to use another payment method (such as Bitcoin), we
can work that out manually.

Julie
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*wiktor *<[email protected]> Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:30 PM
To: Julie Marchant <[email protected]>

Right. I think you realize you not only run afoul of GNU Savannah rules for
hosting open source projects but you mock open source software as an idea.
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*Julie Marchant *<[email protected]> Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:39 PM
To: wiktor <[email protected]>

No. Two things:

One, Savannah's rules are about whether the program is libre, not "open
source". Neither I nor the FSF (who runs Savannah) supports open source.

Two, Savannah's rules do not prohibit charging money for copies, and this
doesn't go against the philosophy of the FSF either.

--
Julie Marchant
https://onpon4.github.io
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*wiktor *<[email protected]> Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:04 PM
To: Julie Marchant <[email protected]>

I think you will find your interpretation is rather unique. I'll be
forwarding this exchange to GNU Savannah staff along with a request to take
down your project.
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*Julie Marchant *<[email protected]> Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:14 PM
To: wiktor <[email protected]>

Go ahead. I don't think I'm in violation of the rules.

--
Julie Marchant
https://onpon4.github.io
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*wiktor *<[email protected]> Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:24 PM
To: Julie Marchant <[email protected]>

Well, I'm curious what the savannah admins will say. I don't mind people
making money from software, but you're
1) clearly misleading people by advertising on pygame (
http://www.pygame.org/project-ReTux-2982-5002.html), Linux game database (
https://lgdb.org/game/retux) among others
2) perhaps violating the terms of use of savannah by password encrypting
the source code (the CVS in savannah doesn't include the source code)
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