Hi, Would you mind sending me an authenticated request to remove the project? For example, you could post a comment at: http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=3833 stating so.
Regards, -- Sylvain On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 06:45:55PM +0200, Fr�d�ric Vasseur wrote: > Hello. > > As no one seems to be interested, I suggest you delete the project. > > Regards, > > > Fred. > > > >From: Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Fr�d�ric Vasseur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sylvain Beucler > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] > >Subject: [task #3833] Submission of Goutte � goutte > >Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 17:05:12 +0000 > > > >Update of task #3833 (project administration): > > > > Should Start On: => Sat 03/05/2005 at > >00:00 > > Should be Finished on: => Sat 03/05/2005 at > >00:00 > > Status: None => Cancelled > > Assigned to: None => Beuc > > Open/Closed: Open => Closed > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > >Follow-up Comment #1: > > > >Hi, > > > >I'm evaluating the project you submitted for approval in Savannah. > > > >(English is the only language that the whole Savannah team understand and > >needed for transparency and archival. I will therefore reply in English, > >although you can send me a private mail in French for precisions) > > > > > >The first problem is that your project relies on proprietary technlogies, > >Visual Basic and the .Net Framework. > > > >It cannot be hosted on Savannah in its current state for this reason. > > > >Savannah is willing to provide resources and time to developers writing > >Free > >Software that can be used without the need to ask permission from > >proprietary > >software vendor. > > > > > >The second problem is portability. > > > >First, we only host projects that can run on a free operating system (such > >as > >GNU/Linux). > > > >(Incidentally, "Linux" is just a kernel of a more complex system that we > >like > >to refer to as GNU/Linux, to emphasize the ideals of the Free Software > >movement. For more information, see > >http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html.) > > > >We have adopted this policy because now that completely free operating > >systems exist, we do not want to encourage users of those systems to start > >using proprietary operating systems so that they can use your program. > > > >If you are willing to maintain a version for free operating systems, which > >work as well as or better than other ports, you can then provide versions > >for > >non-free systems as well. The idea is that at no point should only-free > >users > >be at a disadvantage compared to users of proprietary software. > > > >Your project should always work equally well in free systems as in any > >other > >version you provide; if you have some modules for non-free systems, you can > >delay their release until you have released the free operating system > >version. > > > >Moreover, the fact you use Visual Basic makes it nearly impossible to make > >a > >port to GNU/Linux. Visual Basic is meant to be used only for MS Windows, no > >matter how you code with it, and there is no free replacement for it that > >could be ported to GNU/Linux (although there are .Net framework free > >replacements, such as DotGNU and Mono, there is no ways to compile VB under > >GNU/Linux). The only thing that could happen is rather a complete rewrite > >for > >GNU/Linux, making it a double effort to maintain the application > >eventually. > > > >From my experience, I also can tell that Visual Basic is so much unportable > >that usually you could not even take a VB4, 5 or 6 application and use it > >in > >any other version of VB. > > > >It is better, especially when starting a new development, to use free, > >non-proprietary technologies from the start, even if you are not familiar > >with them yet - it will save time after. > > > >Free software development environments do exist. > >"Glade" is a graphical environment to build applications that works with > >the > >"Gtk+" graphical toolkit. Glade can only be used under GNU/Linux, but > >applications created with it, such as Gaim (gaim.sf.net), run under both > >GNU/Linux and MS Windows. Gtk+ is meant to be used with the C programming > >languages, but can be used by other more higher level languages such as > >Python. > > > >wxWindows is another portable graphical toolkit, although I'm not sure it > >has > >a GUI builder. > > > >I am not an expert on GUI builders, so maybe you should ask on forums to > >get > >more advices on free software portable GUI builders. > > > > > >Last, there are also some problems with your license. > > > >The most important issue in your license is that it doesn't allow > >commercial > >use. Check http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Commercial and > >http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html for more information. > > > >It is almost always better to use an existing license, than to write your > >own. By using your own license, you take the risk to run into legal issues, > >whereas exsisting where written or validated by lawyers. > > > >Your license is also in French. For a project distributed on the Internet, > >it > >makes sense to write a license in English. If think you do need a license > >written in French, you may want to have a look at the CeCILL license, which > >was written to be conform to the French laws, and is compatible with the > >GNU > >GPL. > > > >Requiring to provide a binary along with any distribution of the source > >code > >can be inconvenient as well. > > > >There is also some details about sections that cannot be modified in the > >documentation. In this case, we recommand to give the documentation a > >special > >license, such as the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). This is not a > >free > >software license, is incompatible with the GNU GPL, but is perfectly ok for > >free documentation. Among others, it offers to declare invariants > >non-technical sections. Check http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#FDL > > > > > >So we cannot host your project at Savannah for now. If however you can base > >your project on free portable technologies and switch to existing licenses > >such as the GNU GPL or any GPL-compatible licenses such as the GNU LGPL or > >the Expat license, then please resubmit your project and we will reconsider > >it for inclusion at Savannah. > > > >Regards. > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > >This item URL is: > > > > <http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=3833> > > > >_______________________________________________ > > Message sent via/by Savannah > > http://savannah.gnu.org/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Hotmail : antivirus et antispam gratuits > http://www.imagine-msn.com/hotmail/default.aspx?locale=fr-FR >
