On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <
[email protected]> wrote:

> tl;dr
>
>
That's very unhelpful. Also, if you skip the somewhat-useless paragraphs
about X% and Google it's really not that long. But, to summarize, he's
saying that someone who goes to a project page assumes that everything
there is related to that project. Thus, when they see the "Contact Us"
button that's intended for Savannah as a whole, they assume it means
"Contact the Project". This would explain the frequency of user's
contacting Savannah about issues pertaining to specific projects.


> On 16 November 2012 15:40, Kaz Kylheku <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > This happens quite a bit. A few times a year (or so it seems)
> > someone somehow finds the general Savannah mailing list instead
> > of a project-specific mailing list.
> >
> > By what workflow does that happen?
> >
> > Nowhere on the GNU Backgammon page is there any link to the
> > Savannah mailing list. The word "savannah" doesn't even appear.
> >
> > The problem, I suspect, is the generic Savannah project page,
> > such as this one:
> >
> > http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnubg
> >
> > Of course, a right-thinking end-user thinks that everything on this
> > page pertains to the gnubg project.
> >
> > In the left hand column, we have a Site Support section with links
> > like "Contact us", which are easy to mistake as pertaining to
> > the project. "Contact us" tells you to post to  [email protected].
> >
> > Of course the surrounding text explains that this is an e-mail for
> > the hosting site, and not ofor the specific project, but some X
> > percentage of users will not read this, but simply skim the page
> > look for the address link.
> >
> > People don't read text these days. They skim.
> >
> > Think about Google. You search for something and you get hundreds
> > of pages. Do you read them all? You pick out certain ones based on
> > shreds of the scraped text, and then you skim quickly for any excuse
> > to hit the back button and try another one.
> > Nobody has time to read some boring paragraphs any more.
> >
> > This is the age of Twitter. If you can't say it 140 characters,
> > nobody's gonna read it, especially when the e-mail address they are
> > looking for is highighted in a different color and underlined, so
> > that the eyes can land on it a millisecond after the page loads
> > without noticing anything else.
> >
> > Basically, this is a Savannah usability issues.
> >
> > There should not be any generic Savannah content on the project pages.
> > Maybe just one link back to Savannah, with a loud and clear message
> > "you are now leaving the gnubg project to visit the main site where
> > it is hosted along with thousands of other projects".
> >
> > Only that main site needs Savannah-specific links.
> >
> > It is not necessary for the GNU Backgammon project page to allow users
> > to easily navigate to the Savannah user mailing list and other generic
> > Savannah areas.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:47:37 +0100, Tomasz Konojacki <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> It is not GNU Backgammon mailing list, this mailing list is
> >> dedicated to Savannah, an free software projects hosting site.
> >>
> >> Here you can find information how to reach right mailing list:
> >> http://www.gnubg.org/index.php?itemid=11
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tomasz
> >>
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:57:30 +0330
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> >> Subject: [Savannah-users] I have problem in roraring the board.
> >> Hi.
> >> I use this version: gnubg-MAIN-20121023-v0.90
> >> I want to 180° rotate the board.
> >> example:
> >> I want to choice white. And I want my "home" place on right and down .
> >> But in default setting this is exactly vice versa.
> >>  Could you help me how can i do that?
> >
> >
>
>


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