This is all probably true, but what Microsoft also seems to be ignoring is that for most small to mid-sized businesses, the Cloud is just not feasible or justifiable. The costs are prohibitive over time and by doing this they will simply force smaller companies into using other solutions all together.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anastassios Retzios Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet Charlie, It is not that Microsoft does not know what it is doing. It knows it very well. Microsoft feels that the IT Pros are an impediment to its business goals, not an assistance. I know that Susan would disagree and claim that Microsoft still needs people on the ground to make its products work well, but this is not the case in the higher echelons where the policy is being hammered out. They are looking to move a great number of corporations to their cloud services where everything is hosted without the need (or minimal need) of a complex IT structure on the ground. Thus, Microsoft wants most of IT Pros to disappear as this would open to the door for a number of companies to move, for example, to hosted Exchange (or other solutions). They know that they cannot just march in in other people’s businesses and fire IT personnel so they are trying to “degrade” the IT professionals as best as they can. This is the way of the market. When Microsoft wanted the IT Pros to push its products to the enterprise, it provided to them generous benefits. Now, that they are impediment, it would do as much as possible to get them out of the way. ADR From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlie Borges Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:12 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet In the normal terms and conditions manner of speaking, as in “using it for the programs designed intent”, yes. Not to say people don’t do that, just not the ones I know. The ones that are looking to save $ either use forums, listserv or bit torrent. So M$ is really biting its own tail, as people that want to circumvent there policies will, and people using TechNet properly are burned and at the very least disenfranchised… Thank you, Charlie Borges IT Manager Information Technology ---------9'))}>{{ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:20 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet For business? As part of an consulting business? Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Charlie Borges<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 11/6/2013 8:25 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet I disagree, most people I know that have TechNet used it for business, if you want software free/cheap you can find it without TechNet all day... Thank you, Charlie Borges IT Manager Information Technology ---------9'))}>{{ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:37 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet I do not agree that Microsoft sees IT Pro as competitors. I think the job of the IT Pro is changing. People need to be more open mined about change. Most individual people I know that got a TechNet subscription where not using it for the programs designed intent but has a cheep source for software. Cheers Ryan ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Anastassios Retzios <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 5:39 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet It is totally irrelevant if Apple or Google are gaining market share. What is true is that Microsoft perceives the IT personnel as "competitors" to its services. For Microsoft's standpoint, the world would be great if IT people simply disappear. This would leave the door open for all kinds of direct Microsoft services to corporations. In that context, IT personnel can gain by expanding their universe beyond the Microsoft mantra and bringing in the businesses they serve products and solutions from a variety of vendors. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:32 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet Uhhh...they are actually not gaining market share. Who told you that? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Woods Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:18 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet I am certainly glad that all my mobile devices (including my new iPad Air) and my laptop (a Macbook Pro Retina) are all Apple products. It is no wonder Apple is gaining market share again.... This sucks! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:13 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet That's Office 2013 with a click to run back end now. On 11/5/2013 2:04 PM, Rod Trent wrote: > Hmmm...the way I read that (the rest of the doc) is that actual > on-premise software is going away with the new Action Pack, and > instead they now call it "Internal-use software" which is installed > from the Cloud, run locally, but with a Cloud connection. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Susan Bradley > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:25 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [SaveTechNet] So now that we sucked at saving Technet > > ...how are the MCT's doing with their software needs? > > > Also... > > https://mspartner.microsoft.com/en/us/pages/membership/downloads/micro > soft-p artner-network-competency-roadmap.aspx > > Cloud Essentials, Cloud Accelerate, Cloud Deployment, and Windows > Azure Circle transition Over the next year, the cloud partner programs > will be retired. Partners in these programs who wish to continue to > access cloud-related benefits will need to attain either a Microsoft > Action Pack subscription or relevant Microsoft competency. A new > version of Action Pack, planned for launch in January 2014, will > incorporate several new resources to help subscribers get trained to > sell and deploy cloud services. > Partners can continue to enroll and renew in these cloud programs > until the cloud integration launch date. > Cloud deployment transition > Starting in January 2014 as part of the cloud integration effort, > partners who want to continue to receive differentiated partner > support for Office > 365 and maintain their status as an Office 365 cloud deployment > partner must meet the following requirements: > . Have attained a Silver or Gold Messaging, Devices and Deployment, > Collaboration and Content, Communications, or Project and Portfolio > Management competency. After the launch of the Partner Network cloud > integration effort, partners must fully meet the Silver or Gold cloud > track requirements to keep their cloud deployment partner status when > they renew their competencies. > . Have completed one deployment of more than 150 seats of Office 365 > for the workload that aligns to their competency, within the past 12 > months by March 31, 2014. Partners will be given an opportunity to > provide details about their completed deployments. Additional details > will be provided soon about the transition process. > New competency partners who want to attain cloud deployment partner > status after the launch of the cloud integration initiative must > fulfill the requirements for the silver or gold cloud track to qualify. > > Internal-use software licenses benefits changes for Microsoft Action > Pack subscription Cloud Services benefits Effective January 2014, > Microsoft Action Pack subscribers will have access to Microsoft Cloud > Services for internal-use software licenses. > Partners will have access to the same base benefit levels as today. > Review your license statement in the Partner Network Digital > Distribution Portal for details about your current base internal-use > software licenses benefits. In addition, partners will have the > opportunity to exchange current on-premises base benefits for access > to Microsoft Cloud Services internal-use software licenses benefits. > The following table shows available internal-use software licenses > benefits for Microsoft Cloud Services effective January 2014. > Cloud Service SKU Action Pack Benefit Comments Office365 E3 5 seats > Each seat of Office 365 used in exchange for one on-premises client > access license (CAL) (Microsoft SharePoint, Microsoft Exchange, and Lync). > Microsoft Dynamics CRM Online CRMOL Pro 5 seats Each seat of Microsoft > Dynamics CRM Online used in exchange for one on-premises CAL of > Microsoft Dynamics CRM. Requires active Certified Software Advisor > agreement (find more details through the Microsoft CRM Certified > Software Advisor Fee Overview), or 50 or more seats of Office 365 > sales in the previous 12 months, to qualify.) Windows Intune Cloud > Service Only 5 licenses Up to five devices per license. Each license > of Windows Intune used in exchange for one on-premises CAL of > Microsoft System Center Device Manager. Windows Azure Not applicable > US$100 monthly credit Windows Azure credit is in addition to current on-premises Internal-use software licenses. > > -- > Are you Cyber-aware? > National Cyber Security Awareness Month | Homeland Security: > http://www.dhs.gov/national-cyber-security-awareness-month > > > > > > > > > -- Are you Cyber-aware? 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