Am Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:55:23 +0200 schrieb Christopher Roy Bratusek <[email protected]>:
> Am Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:24:00 +0900 (JST) > schrieb Teika Kazura <[email protected]>: > > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:10:09 +0200, Christopher Roy Bratusek wrote: > > > Yesterday I created the "sawfish-2.90" branch. Which will go HEAD > > > after a while and will lead to Sawfish 3.0 > > > > Isn't it too early? Without gtk+3, there's no reason to call it > > Sawfish-3. Renaming of modules happens definitely sometime, so I'd say > > it's ok in 1.7.1, or at least 1.8.0 suffices. > > It's not. It introduces incompatible changes (more than just module > renaming), which are > to be avoided in the stable branch. > > Besides there won't be a 1.8x -- 1.7x is supported until at least 3.0 > > Also I choose 2.90 to indicate that it's very early. > Of course you're right: GTK+3 isn't here yet. But: Sawfish 3.0 is not just 1.7 + GTK+3. I'm currently reading docs about Scheme/LISP -- meanwhile the other things can already be done. Sawfish 3.0 will take a long time (on one hand limited to our time on the other hand I want to get as much as possible bugs fixed, avoid regressions and bring some new fancy stuff) -- it's ready when we decide it is. Maybe it will be released next summer, next winter or in 2012. 2.90.x releases will be done meanwhile. I know that this doesn't sound good at first, but for Sawfish 3.0 are more things planned: keyboard stuff, GTK+3, tab-system improvement, edges, or check ProposedGoals and BugZilla (…). I would prefer a long-time-taking 3.0 which is high-quality in both new features, bugfixes and stability rather than releasing it to early. (Now I'm going to drift away a bit) E17 is in development and they just entered beta-phase this year -- while not loosing their users, so I'm sure ours won't run away, too. ;) Well... perhaps we will loose users, due to the fact that GNOME-Shell forces users to use Mutter* (from my experiences the percentage of users using sawfish standalone and sawfish + GNOME is almost equal, while I only know three people using sawfish + KDE (Timo, I and some ProLinux-Reader)) so this might be a noticeable drawback. Especially since GNOME-Panel is still not ported to GTK+3 (it looks like it might be, but if not, then GNOME without Mutter is practically nothing). * Mutter is the german word for mother. That's a very bad choice, on the other hand a wide range of "Deine Mutter" (Your Mother) jokes is readily available :D But… who cares about GNOME? We know that Sawfish is better than Mutter. That's enough. Regards, Chris
