At 10:10 AM -0500 3/9/04, Kenneth R. van Wyk wrote:

>So why do I feel that this is a Secure Coding issue and not (just) an OS 
>security issue for Full-Disclosure and similar groups to discuss?  IMHO, the 
>issues that we're dealing with get straight to the heart of the design of the 
>desktop environments that are being deployed.  Sure, Linux has grown up with 
>an arguably better separation of administrative and desktop users from day 
>one, but even just a user-level email worm can be pretty frustrating (in case 
>you haven't noticed from the size of your inbox in the last month or so).

It really is not a matter of secure coding, but rather of secure design.

>Case in point, I just got KDE 3.2 on my PC over the weekend (thanks to the 
>Debian-Sid distribution), and I'm seeing the email/PIM environment appearing 
>more and more like Outlook.  I can open an email attachment straight into its 
>respective app with just 2 clicks of the mouse (although that's actually been 
>possible for some time).  That's not to say that doing so is a good idea, but give 
>the common desktop user the _opportunity_ and...

To secure a machine from malware introduced by a naive user it is required
that naive users not have the privilege to introduce software that can be
executed by them or by other naive users.


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