hi all, In my view, the European market now looks very similar to the US market of 2-3 years ago (not a decade ago). I predict a rash of pen testing, folllowed by adoption of SDLC integration. This will, of course, evolve in a very European way and there will be important regional differences. The good news is that the market is very likely to consolidate quickly to a very reasonable approach to software security. In that sense only will the market be like the US market. I believe it will get things right more easily.
BTW, I have seen "the same" phenomenon in the US as NY led and the West coast (read CA) followed in software security. This is, of course, a huge generalization. The west coast is still in the throes of pen testing for the most part and just beginning to adopt software security initiatives. gem http://www.cigital.com/~gem On 5/19/09 9:55 PM, "Benjamin Tomhave" <list-s...@secureconsulting.net> wrote: Kenneth Van Wyk wrote: > But I just don't get the feeling that they're trying in any way to > "align themselves with the US market". They'll do their own thing in > their own time, which is as it should be. > That syncs with my limited experience with Europeans, both in the past (the French in particular) and in the present (Dutch). Any suggestion that Europe will "follow" the US is probably an error in judgment and highly likely to offend. We should never forget that we're a mere 233 years old independently compared to their several centuries. The Roman Empire lasted almost twice that long. -ben -- Benjamin Tomhave, MS, CISSP fal...@secureconsulting.net LI: http://www.linkedin.com/in/btomhave Blog: http://www.secureconsulting.net/ Photos: http://photos.secureconsulting.net/ Web: http://falcon.secureconsulting.net/ [ Random Quote: ] "Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." Vince Lombardi _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. _______________________________________________