Oh boy. OK -- at the risk of making myself very unpopular here, can I ask a few 
questions? Because this doesn't make any sense to me...

First: how do the greyhound adoption groups, the AKC and the NGA have any 
jurisdiction of what we do with our private pets in a private club? Unless 
animals were being abused or some other law was being broken, I don't 
understand how they would have any say over what we do, or need a society-
level hound position in order to communicate with us.

Second: if a Kingdom choses to have a position titled Houndmaster or 
Mistress, how would that affect whether I (or anyone) could speak with the 
above groups? If there were a serious problem, wouldn't that be a legal/
seneschal/BoD sort of area anyway?

Finally, what interest would a state gambling commission have in us and our 
coursing activities if no money is being bet? I'm pretty sure in California it 
is 
illegal to bet money on anything, period. If that were happening in our group, 
again, wouldn't this be a legal/seneschal/BoD issue?

And -- just because I am curious, I'll play devil's advocate: our kingdom 
allows 
a type of "betting" -- I think they use little trinkets and beads (not money) 
and 
bet on period card games. This breaks no CA laws. If that group were to do a 
similar activity at a coursing event: ie: bet little trinkets on the best crash 
or 
most valiant courser, etc., what sort of laws/issues would be faced?

Please be gentle, I'm not trying to start WWIII here but am only asking 
because I have never heard of the issues being raised in Rebecca/Elizabeth's 
email and I want to make sure I do fully understand.

Christiaen



--- In [email protected], Willa - Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Anyone know anything different about this issue?
> Which kingdoms have their written appointment in place?
> Yasmeena
> Artemisia
> 
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:27:44 -0400 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > I have recently spoken with Mistress Elizabeth Curry.  She asked me 
> > to post this information to the site.  She recently received a 
> > letter from the BOD stating that it will not recognize the position 
> > of Society Houndsmaster/mistress.  This is due to the fact that we 
> > do not need any special insurance to course the hounds.  Mistress 
> > Elizabeth is appealing this decision because she has acted as the 
> > liason between the Society and other groups so that we can continue 
> > to course.  Namely state gambling commissions, greyhound adoption 
> > groups, AKC and NGA.  Since we do NOT allow betting, points, etc 
> > these other groups have not taken issue with us.  She would like to 
> > keep it that way.  This being said, she asked me to pass on to all 
> > Kingdom Houndsmasters that you will need to get a letter from you 
> > Royals appointing you as the Kingdom Houndmaster.  This needs to be 
> > in writting not just a verbal OK.  This will give you standing if 
> > you need to act as the liason with any of the aforementioned groups, 
> > since her status is presently in limbo.  Good luck.
> > 
> > THL Rebecca with the Greyhound, Meridies Houndmistress
> > 
> > If you want to hear the patter of little feet, I'll put shoes on my 
> > dogs
> > 
> > 
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