Great thanks. Will use support site next time. Thanks for letting me
know.  Please be careful if you need to make any changes, lets chat on
when those can be done. This is a live site with a ton of traffic. An
outage will be a disaster.



On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Nickolas Toursky<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mikhail,
>
> We are looking into this issue.
> Please, use http://support.scalr.net next time for urgent problems.
>
> Thank you,
> Nick
>
> 2009/9/2 Mikhail Malamud <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Scalr guys. Need a response from you. I need to fix the farm. If I set
>> the correct role in the farm will it kill existing instances of that
>> role in the farm?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Mikhail Malamud<[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks Donovan.
>>>
>>> I see what the fix is but I am afraid to do it.
>>>
>>> My farm is running r1 and r2 but when I go to edit farm it says I am
>>> running r3 and r4. If I change is back to r1 and r2, is it going to
>>> kill my already running r1 and r2.
>>>
>>> What happened when you did it?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Donovan Bray<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it were my farm I'd go into farm view -> all and on the farm in
>>>> question I'd click options and edit, verify that each role is set with
>>>> the role name I expect with the correct min and max instances , save
>>>> the farm config then open up that farms instances; terminate any
>>>> instances with incorrect role names. If you mess with mysql roles make
>>>> sure you trigger a mysql bundle before you terminate it.
>>>>
>>>> Mysql data is saved per farm not role so you can switch the mysql role
>>>> if necessary.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know your farm don't do anything that places your production
>>>> data at risk.  If in doubt wait for scalr, prod them via Twitter if
>>>> your not getting a response.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Mikhail Malamud <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the DNS zone. it is completely busted containing records
>>>>> for the r1, r2, r3 and r4. I have no instances of r3 and r4 roles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys, please help to clean this up. This is impacting our production
>>>>> environment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Mikhail Malamud<[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> Donovan, thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a big bite and completely pointless, not considering the fact
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> breaks everything since there is no such role in that farm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you elaborate though on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "To recover go into each farm and set the role back to r1."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I go to applications, I cannot even select the true roles that
>>>>>> are in that farm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Donovan Bray<[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is by design unfortunately. It's confusing and bites everybody
>>>>>>> who runs more than one farm in their scalr account.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sync-all will restart instances with the same source role name
>>>>>>> regardless of what farm they are in; thus if you have r1 in nine
>>>>>>> different farms if you sync it to r3 all nine farms will be
>>>>>>> changed to
>>>>>>> r3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To recover go into each farm and set the role back to r1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To prevent that from occurring next time instead of creating a farm
>>>>>>> and selecting r1 as your source instance; go to roles new and create
>>>>>>> r3 and base it off of an instance running r1. After you've synced
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> renamed the requisite roles, create your farm using the new role
>>>>>>> names, modify to suit then sync those roles again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see no advantage to the current design, I've never needed a cross
>>>>>>> farm sync but it's bitten me in the ass more times than I care to
>>>>>>> admit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:37 PM, mmalamud <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> let me clarify this a little more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Farm 1 {r1, r2}
>>>>>>>> 2. Farm 2 {r1, r2}
>>>>>>>> 3. Synch All on Farm 2, Choose new roles names {r3, r4}
>>>>>>>> 4. Now application myapp.com which was pointing to Farm 1, r1
>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>> to Farm 1, r3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> r3 does not even exist in farm 1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 1:41 pm, mmalamud <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> This is a major issue. Here is what happened
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> farm1 had roles r1 and r2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> farm 2 had same roles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did synchronize all on r1 and r2 but chose new role names r3 and
>>>>>>>>> r4.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> r1 and r2 stayed fine in farm1 but my application which which was
>>>>>>>>> pointing to r1 in farm1 now points to r3 in farm1 and r3 does not
>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> exist in farm1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> farm id is 2270.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> application should be pointing to www64-2009xxxx role. not www64-
>>>>>>>>> stg3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> >
>

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