Try it again? --Tom
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, David Ally <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Is Launchpad up now? I tried installing today and got this error; > > da...@ubuntupc:~/sandbox$ sudo bzr branch lp:cando > [sudo] password for david: > bzr: ERROR: Connection error: Couldn't resolve host > 'xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net' [Errno -2] Name or service not known > > Regards! > > David > > ________________________________ > From: Tom Hoffman <[email protected]> > To: David Ally <[email protected]>; SchoolTool Developers > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 7:03:44 PM > Subject: Re: Welcome to the SchoolTool Grant/Pilot Project > > What's the timeframe at this point for a CanDo .deb that works for > Lucid? What are the remaining steps? I don't want David to be > mucking around with these source packages. > > --Tom > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:25 AM, David Ally <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Alan, >> >> Yes, I have been traveling a lot and the other stakeholders on the project >> have also not been much around, I have been to NIEPA several times between >> my last email and now. We are doing the ground work first before the >> getting >> the final management stakeholders requirements finalize. I'm running lucid >> now. >> >> I tried installing from bzr but I ran into this problem; >> >> da...@ubuntupc:~/sandbox$ bzr branch lp:~aelkner/cando/lucid_release cando >> ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: Connection timed out >> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check >> connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. >> >> I guess this is more of configuration on LP problem, so please guide me. >> >> There would be a broader stakeholders' meeting anytime from 12th June, and >> I >> need to test things before then. >> >> David >> ________________________________ >> From: Alan Elkner <[email protected]> >> To: Tom Hoffman <[email protected]> >> Cc: David Ally <[email protected]>; Justas Sadzevicius <[email protected]>; >> Gediminas Paulauskas <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 1:36:23 AM >> Subject: Re: Welcome to the SchoolTool Grant/Pilot Project >> >> David, >> >> Tom makes a good point about getting the new version to you faster by >> way of bzr checkout. Please follow these instructions and let me know >> if you have any problems: >> >> 1) Pick a directory as the parent directory of the checkout. I'll >> assume you picked ~/sandbox. >> >> cd >> mkdir sandbox >> cd sandbox >> bzr branch lp:~aelkner/cando/lucid_release cando >> cd cando >> sudo make ubuntu-environment >> make >> make run >> >> 2) If everything goes well, you should have an instance of cando >> running on port 7080. If not please let me know. >> >> Let me know ow it turns out either way, >> Alan >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Tom Hoffman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Just to try to sum this up... >>> >>> In the immediate term David just needs some kind of instructions to >>> get a demo going -- bzr checkout, whatever we can get working, >>> preferably with current CanDo and up to date SchoolTool. >>> >>> David, in the longer run, we'll want your schools to be using Ubuntu >>> packages on Lucid and then Maverick. Those are the target platforms. >>> >>> --Tom >>> >>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:13 AM, David Ally <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Alan, >>>> >>>> Ok, i just confirmed that 10.4 is LTS release, sorry for my >>>> misinformation. >>>> So, give me the instructions on how to carry out the installation, I can >>>> install from svn repos. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Alan Elkner <[email protected]> >>>> To: Tom Hoffman <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: David Ally <[email protected]>; Justas Sadzevicius >>>> <[email protected]>; >>>> Gediminas Paulauskas <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 5:13:12 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Welcome to the SchoolTool Grant/Pilot Project >>>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> I got cando to work with the latest scholtool on lucid. I know you >>>> are urgently waiting for the debian package for your proposal, so I >>>> will advise you as soon as that last step has been completed by our >>>> packaging team which should be very soon. >>>> >>>> I'll keep you informed day by day, >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Alan Elkner <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Will do, and I'll report my findings to the developers mailing list >>>>> tonight. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Tom Hoffman <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Alan, >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you test CanDo with the latest SchoolTool? >>>>>> >>>>>> --Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Alan Elkner <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> David, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's true that CanDo is dependent on an older version of schooltool. >>>>>>> I will confer with our team to see what it would take to get it to >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> a newer version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Alan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:16 AM, David Ally <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Allan, and team members, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just read the several emails, I have been on trips and was only >>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> glance at emails. I'm due in NIEPA next week to finalize what >>>>>>>> initial >>>>>>>> deployment of SchoolTool and other frameworks should be. But I >>>>>>>> recently >>>>>>>> tried installing the combined latest SchoolTool and Cando with no >>>>>>>> success, >>>>>>>> however, I was able to install Cando from svn repository, meanining >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> older >>>>>>>> version of SchoolTool, Alan, please how do I get this done using the >>>>>>>> latest >>>>>>>> version of SchoolTool? I need this for final presentation to >>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> team at NIEPA for final decision on scope for the phase I >>>>>>>> deployment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Other issues would be communicated to the group after my >>>>>>>> presentations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> From: Alan Elkner <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: Tom Hoffman <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; David Ally >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; Douglas Cerna <[email protected]>; Jen >>>>>>>> Overgaag >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; shadoschools shadoschools >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; >>>>>>>> Justas Sadzevicius <[email protected]>; Gediminas Paulauskas >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 10:27:51 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Welcome to the SchoolTool Grant/Pilot Project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just wanted to briefly add to Tom's introduction of myself. I've >>>>>>>> been a software developer for over twenty years now, working on >>>>>>>> technologies ranging from assembly language on the IBM mainframe to >>>>>>>> Microsoft Visual Studio C++ and Basic. For the last five years, my >>>>>>>> work has been with the Python programming language and, more >>>>>>>> recently, >>>>>>>> the Zope 3 web development platform and SchoolTool. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I must say that being a part of the SchoolTool project, developing >>>>>>>> software that benefits the world at large, is a welcome change from >>>>>>>> developing software that merely makes profits for one company. I >>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>> forward to working with you all on the three grants that have been >>>>>>>> assigned to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me at any time no matter what the >>>>>>>> question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --Alan Elkner >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Tom Hoffman <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Today marks the official beginning of the 2010 SchoolTool >>>>>>>>> development >>>>>>>>> grant cycle. I thought I should start with an overview of what I >>>>>>>>> anticipating happening next and brief introductions. Apologies for >>>>>>>>> the length of this email. It is probably the longest you'll get >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In particular this email is directed at the schools who are working >>>>>>>>> with our developer Alan Elkner, that is, Mpelembe Secondary School >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> Kitwe, Zambia, Sulaimon Shado Schools in Lagos Nigeria, and the >>>>>>>>> National Institiute for Educational Planning and Administration >>>>>>>>> (NIEPA), Ondo State, Nigeria. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll introduce myself and briefly introduce the other players and >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> our plans are for each. I'm doing this in part to give you a >>>>>>>>> chance >>>>>>>>> to correct my understandings of who you are all, so feel free to >>>>>>>>> expand on this in a response and don't hesitate to correct me! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom Hoffman -- Managing the SchoolTool project has been my full >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> job for over five years. A lot longer than I thought it would take >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> get this far, to be honest, but Mark Shuttleworth and I were >>>>>>>>> willing >>>>>>>>> to see the project through some initial setbacks, and basically >>>>>>>>> re-making many of the classic mistakes in software development, and >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> both feel SchoolTool is on the verge of taking off and helping many >>>>>>>>> schools around the world save money, run more efficiently and >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> educate their students. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I gradually migrated from teaching to my current role. I have a >>>>>>>>> Masters of Arts in Teaching English from Brown University, I taught >>>>>>>>> English in the Providence Public Schools for two years, then helped >>>>>>>>> design a small high school in Providence where I served as a >>>>>>>>> technology coordinator, then, when that position was eliminated by >>>>>>>>> budget cuts, found myself working on SchoolTool, to which I had >>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>> some volunteer contributions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I live with my wife and two daughters, aged 1 and 3, in Providence, >>>>>>>>> Rhode Island, which is not an island but a state on the east coast >>>>>>>>> between Boston and New York. I blog at http://tuttlesvc.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alan Elkner has been a full time SchoolTool developer for over two >>>>>>>>> years, and volunteered before that. He has worked on the CanDo >>>>>>>>> competency tracking component, the gradebook, and developed the >>>>>>>>> Intervention package with Science Leadership Academy in >>>>>>>>> Philadelphia. >>>>>>>>> He lives outside Philadelphia in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mpelembe Secondary School is a technical high school in Kitwe, >>>>>>>>> Zambia. >>>>>>>>> They're a leader in the use of ICT in Zambian schools, >>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>> through their participation in the ENEDCO project -- Enhancing the >>>>>>>>> Visual and Presentation of Educational Content. Gonzalo Portal is >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> ENEDCO project leader, Jennifer Overgaag is a volunteer (from the >>>>>>>>> US?) >>>>>>>>> working with the school on IT, and Peter Walinkonde is a full time >>>>>>>>> IT >>>>>>>>> administrator for the school. They're currently managing the >>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>> on paper and with spreadsheets. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sulaimon Shado Schools is a... actually, I'm not 100% sure, is >>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> primary and secondary school and a small college, or just primary >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> secondary schools? ... located in Lagos, Nigeria. Their deployment >>>>>>>>> will also be supported by a local firm, PeopleSoft Technologies. >>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>> have actually been using a different open source SIS, FocusSIS, so >>>>>>>>> this gives us an opportunity to work on a migration. Hajia Taiwo >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> the school principal and Balogun Kazeem is our contact at >>>>>>>>> PeopleSoft. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At NIEPA, we have an opportunity to integrate SchoolTool into the >>>>>>>>> process of training school administrators in Nigeria, an exciting >>>>>>>>> possibility. Especially if we can successfully promote that work >>>>>>>>> through their connections at UNESCO and UNICEF. Our contact here >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> David Ally, a local consultant for Techno-Science Ltd. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, as you can see we have three schools and one developer. We >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> three months before instances need to be set up and teachers >>>>>>>>> starting >>>>>>>>> to be trained at Mpelembe and Shado Schools. The timeline is less >>>>>>>>> distinct so far at NIEPA. Probably we still need to find a >>>>>>>>> specific >>>>>>>>> school to act as a site for them. David is still working out the >>>>>>>>> details. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Early on, the pattern will be to focus on one school at a time for >>>>>>>>> perhaps two week intervals, probably repeating each step with each >>>>>>>>> school. Get Mpelembe's data imported, get Shado's data imported, >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> I do want to start with trying to import Mpelembe data from the >>>>>>>>> FET >>>>>>>>> open source timetable generation software -- they've provided us >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> an XML export. Alan started looking at that today. We'll put a >>>>>>>>> week >>>>>>>>> into that and then evaluate how much longer it might take an >>>>>>>>> prioritize from there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In terms of the time alloted in the grant award, we may end up >>>>>>>>> spending more time than was estimated/budgeted. Those are not hard >>>>>>>>> limits. If Alan ends up working with the three of you for the rest >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> the year, and other developers have to chip in some help, but these >>>>>>>>> pilots are a success, I'll be happy. I'll be ecstatic if we get >>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>> with time left over, but the point is, we're not going to say >>>>>>>>> "times >>>>>>>>> up" at the end of August and walk away. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, by January 2011 we'll want to focus elsewhere so we should >>>>>>>>> all try to expose and fix as many problems as possible before the >>>>>>>>> end >>>>>>>>> of the year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We will also try to prioritize such that we take care of the things >>>>>>>>> that have to be ready to start school first. We may push back >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> like end of year reporting requirements that aren't required until, >>>>>>>>> well, the end of the year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Communication: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * When you're emailing Alan or me, please cc: the other so we both >>>>>>>>> know what is going on. I'm not sure if it will make sense to >>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>> one or more mailing lists to make sure all the right people are >>>>>>>>> getting relevant mails. We'll see how that develops. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * If you are comfortable using IRC, we do have a chat channel on >>>>>>>>> freenode.net. We have a weekly staff meeting there Mondays at >>>>>>>>> 1330. >>>>>>>>> The channel is logged here: http://schooltool.pov.lt/irclogs/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * We use Launchpad for most administrative tasks, particularly >>>>>>>>> tracking bugs. If possible we'd like to have you entering bugs >>>>>>>>> directly (rather than sending us emails and having us copy them >>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> the bug tracker), but we can do it either way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * If you prefer a certain mode of text, audio or video chat, let me >>>>>>>>> know. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That should be enough for starters! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looking forward to working with you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --Tom Hoffman >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~schooltool-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~schooltool-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
