Hi,
On 25 jul 2011, at 23:49, Alexander Wagner wrote:
> On 07/19/11 19:17, Esteban Cervetto wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>>> is it possible annotate in PGN standads the time issued per move?
>>> It is an important data when you have to analize your performance.
>>>
>>> I agree.
>>> I like the ICC format, just a comment with the remaining time (
>>> h:mm:ss )
>>> For example:
>>
>> 1. e4 {1:40:30} c6 {1:40:25} 2. d4 {1:40:02} d5 {1:40:50}
>>
>> I don't have time for scid development now, but after the summer i
>> will write some code to interpret a comment starting with h:mm:ss as
>> clock values and show it on the right of the board.
>>
>> Great! It would be remarkable keep in mind that some points and
>> ideas before begin to write code:
>>
>> 1) Usually, the reflection time per game doesn't last more
>> than 120 minutes. In my personal games, I only wrote the total
>> minutes expended.
>
> You're only considering OTB gameplay here. One should
> howerver strive for a general solution to the issue. Also
> note that there's also another AFAIK estabilished form of
> time notation, something linke
>
> [%ccsnt 2011.06.16,17:53]
>
> (This is CC gameplay, therefore the date matters as well.)
>
> Nevertheless, it might be wise to check out [% ] notations.
> Especially, considering that it's perfectly simple to hide
> those annotations and avoid crowding PGN notation. (Just
> switch off arrow marks.)
>
> AFAIK it is common to use [%ct ] and [%emt ] for usual game
> times. Note that this is also the way input engine stores
> times if timing is provided. It might also be worth while to
> check what some larger commercial company uses as
> commentaries for time storage. (I think it's the above but
> I'm not 100% sure about it.)
This is described in the extended PGN notation document, which linked to in my
first mail about this item. This extension is created by people from ChessBase,
Chess Assistant, DGT and others. Although is seems to be a proposal, it is
widely used within the computer chess programs and databases.
>
>> 2) Annotate time for all the moves is a very boring task.
>
> One should keep in mind that in real game play you might
> already get the time stamps from a digital clock or, in
> Scids game play functions by the internal clock.
In OTB, FIDE rules, your allowed to add the time on your notation form. Most
players I know who do add the clock time to their notation, don't do it for
every move but every fifth or tenth move.
> For external time sources input engine comes to mind again,
> e.g. I store timings from a DGT clock right into the
> notation. The format used by Scid is
>
> [%ct $wHrs:$wMin:$wSec] [%emt $timediff]
>
Met vriendelijke groet,
Jan Krabbenbos
jan.krabben...@gmail.com
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