I tried to post screen shots to show the differences but that may not make it
to the rest of you (some sort of moderator action may be needed I think). So,
here are the differences (typed by hand):
3.6.24 shows this (only one line of output in the analysis window) for a 13 ply
search:
13 +0.13 Nf3 Nc6 g3 Nf6 Bg5 d5 O-O d4 d3 h5 Bg5 Qd6
3.6.23 shows this for a search:
13 +0.11 Nc3 Nf6 Nf3 e6 e4 Nc6 <etc>
13 +0.12 d4 Nf6 Nc3 e6 Nf3 Bb4 <etc>
14 +0.11 d4 Nf6 Nc3 e6 Nf4 Bb4 <etc>
That is different! Is there a way to make .24 work like .23?
Thanks!
Roy
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2008/6/22 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Pascal Georges wrote:
Hi!
I released Scid 3.6.24 at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/
See the changelog for details.
[...]
Note also I set a link to download from google code (see the download page), so
I will have less bandwidth problems.
Pascal, I added all the files also to
http://www.stellarcom.org/scid/download. Therefore, if you want to
you could place additional download links to e.g.
http://www.stellarcom.org/scid/download/scid-3.6.24.tar.bz2
and so on. I did not mirror your webpages so there live just
the files.
ok, the more mirrors, the better, but using google site I think I will solve
most of the bandwidth problems (I think google's bandwidth will hardly be a
limitation ;-) ).
Pascal
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2008/6/21 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi!
Could it be possible to have more than one ratings.ssp
within scid? I stumbled accross this idea while working on
CC support in some discussion with Austin. Actually, it
would probably be pretty easy to export e.g. the SchmingMind
ratings to a proper rating file for scid, though one would
still like to have the ratings that Franz generats for "the
big people" at hand. As on chess servers there's usually the
login name displayed these two would not mix up.
I don't think it is possible right now, but changing code to handle that
should not be too complicated.
A similar, "inverse" question arrises for the photo files.
Is there a way to have an association between several names?
Ie. if a player is displayed by his real name as well as by
his login ID? For ongoing games I can not solve this by
spell checking of the names as I also use the delivered
login names on the server for game identification, plus, the
login names on a server have the very nice feature that they
have to be unique. Currently, the only way I can work
arround this issue is by storing the same photo for several
names.
A solution is to set an array
set aliasPhoto("alias_name1") "name1" in spf file
and in updatePlayerPhotos proc handle the indirection : if
aliasPhoto("alias_name1") exists, use its value, or use the actual value.
Pascal
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Hello,
Just to separate the topics, I am posting here to promote the project of
building a free central repository of games. Hence the name, "centriscid",
which is the only prefix my word finder can give me to "scid" [1]. It is a
family of fish, as one can find here [2]. The Aeoliscus strigatus and the
Centricus scutatus (two generae of the family) live near Singapore, which may
be near New Zealand enough to pay lip service to Shane.
Here are very important concerns, in the words of Alexander :
Especially taking care about doublette games, crosschecking that all
tournaments are included completely and stuff like that makes this a bit more
difficult than just adding TWIC every other week. Additionally, delivering a
good predefined index to such a DB is really worth some work.
I think this idea of predefined index needs exploration. Suppose that these
index are done. What we would need then is a way to producing an index out
right of Scid. Something like a report or a tournament table, e.g. in XHTML,
with the description of the database, and some details about the games :
checked, to verify, dubious, incomplete, missing, etc.
In saying this I am forwarding a concern by a friend of mine, who would wish
this facility. This guy spends at least five hours per day with Scid and likes
it very much. But he's away from the Internet most of the time, so he asked me
a while ago to talk about that. I think this topic fits nicely into the
project of building a central repository.
Have fun with the idea,
B
## References
[1] http://www.findtheword.info
[2] http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/browser.php?utsn=166433
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2008/6/22 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
As far as I see, a scid DB consists of quite a bunch of
files. Eg. time stamping for CC is stored in a file called
*.sem. I could imagein to add another text file that
contains the description and that is read if it's available.
Just like the SEM-file. This would avoid compatibilty
issues.
that's a good solution. The question is how to display the data to the user,
and I really would like to avoid YAWIS (*) syndrom.
Pascal
(* Yet Another Window In Scid)
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A similar project would be to set up a really good opening
book. E.g. Arena's main opening book is created by such an
efford. Ok, there's one person in charge that works this
out, but still it could be that in the community here some
people are arround that say: ok, lets set such a thing up,
I'm an expert in the Sicilian and you can my friend is a
special fan of the Ruy and in our local club...
Maybe you refer to Harry Schnapp's work ? Indeed a good reference opening book
would be a good thing, even more if human tuned and checked.
Though I think I'd not place such things within the main
distribution but into some "additional ressources" part.
These could be hosted at SF or somewhere else.
Pascal
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2008/6/22 Bogdan Burlacu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hello everybody!
Regarding the discussion about scid having a default db included, maybe
a script/program to download games from the internet could be bundled
up. For example I have my own little C program using libcurl which can
get all TWIC issues from chesscenter.com, ending up with over 700K games.
I know this suggestion is a little different but it works.
Bogdan
There is a python script in the directory scripts of Scid : twic2scid.py.
It seems to do what you wrote in C.
By the way I found back the ibase url : http://www.icofy.net/index.php?lc=2
>From the description :
"Giving the chess player of each strength a free database to prepare for an
opponent or an opening system.
This
free chess games collection in PGN format, which can be downloaded by
everyone, is regularly updated and constantly manually revised."
It is pretty ok for me. Maybe a Scid DB conversion and putting the result
"somewhere" on internet could help users ? I cannot personnaly host it because
I wonder why the ISP Free.fr did not already kicked me out, given the bandwidth
I use for Scid.
Pascal
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The engine output is exactly the same as in previous Scid's versions. Only the
UI has changed.
Pascal
2008/6/22 Roy Brunjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I just downloaded and compiled 3.6.24. The analysis window only shows the
current PV and not the previous PVs. Is there a way to show each PV as it is
calculated and scroll the PVs so the user can see how it changes over time?
Without that, I'm afraid I'll have to go back to .23 ...
Thanks,
Roy
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One could also think about offering a large reference DB.
Some time ago chesslib.no offered a free 2*10^6 games subset
of their main db, and they also released their final db to
the public domain before the site went down. Today you can
not get this DB from chesslib.no, but still I'd have the
complete DB available here. I'd not pack such a thing into
scid distribution of course but one could offer it as an
additional ressource.
Also a community project within the current scid framework
to create such a DB is worth to consider. A start might be
"complete TWIC" plus manual selection of major tournaments
before TWIC started, or whatever. I don't know what the
community here thinks about such a thing, but actually if
there are some volunteers that says "ah, if I only could I'd
support this project but I don't know a thing about
programming" this would be a place to start. Besides,
workload on such a project scales pretty well: if a
tournament is not included in V1.0, so be it it can come in
V1.01... Acutally, I think if there're some volunteers that
have fun with such things in the end Scid-Mega would be
better than CB-Mega ;) Especially taking care about
doublette games, crosschecking that all tournaments are
included completely and stuff like that makes this a bit
more difficult than just adding TWIC every other week.
Additionally, delivering a good predefined index to such a
DB is really worth some work.
There already exists good free games collections, like ibase and Grand06, but I
can't find again their sites :-(
But I am sure searching a little bit, a good game DB can be set up from free
resources.
A similar project would be to set up a really good opening
book. E.g. Arena's main opening book is created by such an
efford. Ok, there's one person in charge that works this
out, but still it could be that in the community here some
people are arround that say: ok, lets set such a thing up,
I'm an expert in the Sicilian and you can my friend is a
special fan of the Ruy and in our local club...
Maybe you refer to Harry Schnapp's work ? Indeed a good reference opening book
would be a good thing, even more if human tuned and checked.
Though I think I'd not place such things within the main
distribution but into some "additional ressources" part.
These could be hosted at SF or somewhere else.
Pascal
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2008/6/22 Bogdan Burlacu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hello everybody!
Regarding the discussion about scid having a default db included, maybe
a script/program to download games from the internet could be bundled
up. For example I have my own little C program using libcurl which can
get all TWIC issues from chesscenter.com, ending up with over 700K games.
I know this suggestion is a little different but it works.
Bogdan
There is a python script in the directory scripts of Scid : twic2scid.py.
It seems to do what you wrote in C.
By the way I found back the ibase url : http://www.icofy.net/index.php?lc=2
>From the description :
"Giving the chess player of each strength a free database to prepare for an
opponent or an opening system.
This
free chess games collection in PGN format, which can be downloaded by
everyone, is regularly updated and constantly manually revised."
It is pretty ok for me. Maybe a Scid DB conversion and putting the result
"somewhere" on internet could help users ? I cannot personnaly host it because
I wonder why the ISP Free.fr did not already kicked me out, given the bandwidth
I use for Scid.
Pascal
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