Hi!
If I remember correctly we had this discussion already once the new engine
dialog was introduced in cvs. If Roy did not use cvs (and I guess he did not)
then indeed the behaviour changed in 3.6.24 for the first time. It just took a
bit from 3.6.23 to 3.6.24. It was thought of as an improvement, therefore, Roy,
this could happen on upgrading. ;)
To the behaviour: my guess is that Roy has some usage for this history output,
otherwise he'd not have the wish to get it back. Obviously, he even considers
to exchange all the new features of 3.6.24 just to get it back and there was
something done between .23 and .24... (Acutally, I'd also guess that there must
be some usage for this output as otherwise no engine would waste the cpu-cycles
to display it...) Its not to argue about whether this is good wish or not, its
just a statement. Probably, Roy could give an example where he uses this
output. Just for us to better understand. Personally, I think it could be
valuable in case there are two lines that get pretty much the same evaluation,
ie. the two or three best lines alternate depending on the search depth eg. but
that's just a guess.
A way to solve this problem IMHO could come with Giorgios enhancements to the
analysis dialogue, and maybe there could be a way to show the evaluation
history upon request. Acutally, there's plenty of space if only one line of
analysis is displayed. one could imagine to show the mainline as it is done
right now, add a free line (ie. some space) to visually separate it clearly and
scroll the history below that. IMHO would give the advantages of both worlds. A
click on the history could make it invisible like the current analysis is
hidden by clicking within the window.
Concerning whether there is another application that offers this feature, hm
well, I see no reason to limit oneself to the abilities of other apps ;)
Just some thoughts, though.
----- original Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 29
Gesendet: Mi, 25. Jun 2008
Von: Pascal Georges
Sorry, I made a confusion between various versions of Scid, and I thought the
engine output history was removed since a long time for UCI engine. And indeed
it is, as I find this kind of output (history) is confusing and of little use
(I am not aware of any chess app that displays full history).
Pascal
2008/6/25 Roy Brunjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Pascal,
I disagree that this is a mis-configuration. Showing multiple PVs is one thing,
what I am asking for is entirely different. Please look closely at the example
again and I think you should see what I am asking for is NOT just setting
multiPV mode to 4 or something similar. MultiPV set to 4 slows down the search
as well which a single PV analysis with history enabled (to show the results of
each previous ply) does not.
Also, how can it be a misconiguration if it worked differently in 3.6.23 and no
changes were made to the configuration for 3.6.24? If there is no configuration
change, the behavior of the software should be the same -- at least that is
what most people expect with software upgrades in myexperience.
Respectfully,
Roy
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