Hi!

> My name is Wes Jennings and this is my first post to
> scid-users. 

Welcome to the Club! :)

> 1. Are basic scid users welcome to submit to this list?

Sure. Unfortunately, to few _users_ acutally take part here
actively. I wished it were more and also some user comments
come in here more often.

> 2. Let me disgress here first.  I am running Linux and
> have maybe intermediate level skills with this OS.  I did
> not run into any problems compiling scid and getting
> things setup properly.  However, I wanted to upgrade the
> chess engine to crafty.  Crafty has been a bear for me to
> compile in the past. 

Well, this is absolutely independend of any skills. Frankly,
crafty's make is a mess.

> I was able to compile Crafty-19.20 once with a help file
> someone prepared.  But I can't locate that file either on
> my computer or the Inet.  I now have the latest version of
> crafty, but can't get the &*(_*_)*^ thing to compile.
> There is no configure file in the crafty sources.  It
> doesn't seem to have any autoconf input files either: *.ac
> or *.in, etc.  So my 2nd question is a yelp for help. 
> 
> HOW DOES ONE GET THE CRAFTY SOURCES TO COMPILE? 

On Linux for PC 32bit, you can use the default Makefile and
it should work out with something like

         export opt="-DDGT -DTRACE -DEPD -DSKILL"
         make linux

This is for v22.1. For v20.14 and v21.6 I left out the
-DSKILL option for opt above. This all gives you a build
using gcc. (I'm not sure that building with icc works in
current makefiles.)

However, you might probably want to try other engines like
Fruit (the former commercial 2.1 is now free, but binary
only), Toga II or Glaurung. They're pretty strong, and
recently the addition of the real UCI interface to Scid
acutally prefers UCI engines (IMHO).

> Oh, by the way, I've considered that this is off topic for
> the scid-users list.  I have tried to sign-up for to
> crafty list, and my request to join seemed to take.  But
> things seem like a dead fish on the other end: no email is
> coming through.  Any help would be certainly welcomed.

See above. I could also offer some simple build script I use
to populate my /opt/chess directory by building from a
source repository where I use stow for version management.
This "builds"/installs crafty, fruit, toga, glaurung, sjeng,
homer, scid, phalanx, xboard, polyglot, dgtnix, eboard in
one large run from sources in /opt/cess/src/Repository to
/opt/chess/stow and then linked into /opt/chess/bin etc. for
usage, in case you're interested.

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