On 01/04/2011 08:41 PM, Gerd Lorscheid wrote: Hi!
> this here is really funny to read. There are no copyrights > on chess games. Right. > So what you can do is order Bigbase for 50 > Euro from Chessbase and you have pretty good edited > 4.500.000 games. Bigbase has no annotations, which have > copyrights. Even if an annotation of a game of chess entitles you to some rights is not clear at all. What gives you a "copyright" has to be a "creative act". Most simply you can see this with some painting. You did it nobody else could have done it, you created it. Now, a game of chess follows a logical sequence of moves. One can argue that _everybody_ who just follows logic comes to the same conclusions. Thus no creative act involved in annotating games. AFAIK this is still up to some discussions at the lawyers and far from clear at all. (Some time ago I read a quite interesting article by Anands who took up that point. I do not have the URL at hand anymore but it was some interview he gave right after his defence of the WCC title.) > You can convert them to .si4 and distribute them. I think your argument is to short here. Copyright for databases is quite a different thing. Though the individual entry may not give you any rights you usually DO have copyright on the collection as such. I.e. the act of collecting and making a selection usually entitles you for Copyright even if the entries you collected are public domain. Things may work out if you take only parts if they are small enough and so on. E.g. you are NOT allowed to dump out a commercial database even if it contains only public domain data. (I may add that we do not have Copyright in Germany, but Urheberrecht, there're some nifty details about this distinction) > Nothing else Chessbase is doing. For sure they did not > enter 4.500.000 games (4.500.000 games * 5 minutes per > game * 12 Euro per hour == 4.500.000 Euro). Right. But they did the collection and compilation and this is what gives them certain rights for their bases. For this reason, if by some community effort we could make up a collection/compilation of games for Scid all issues are solved once and for all. We could license it with GPL and it would be free. IMHO this can not be done legally in the way you suggest. Again, I'm no lawyer but in fact I've quite some dealings with this, IMHO senseless, copyright stuff in my regular job. cu Alexander ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl _______________________________________________ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
