What does the order that we learn something have anything to do with
this? Whenever I do a SQL query where I need to see the latest few
rows, I do order by time desc, and when I open my games list, I want
the latest one at the top, not the bottom. I don't care about the game
I played 2 years ago when I started recording my games. I don't know
about any standards to have old stuff be shown to you as more
important.

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> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open a
> games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to open
> with the most recent games on top?
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>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400
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>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering
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>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game
>> list to be date desc?
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>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000
>> From: Steve A <stevena...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering
>> To: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com>,         scidvspc-users
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>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way.
>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases).
>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be
>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be
>> shown.
>> See the sort help topics.
>>
>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the
>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game)
>>
>> S.A.
>>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game
>> > list to be date desc?
>> >
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>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400
>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering
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>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted
>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a
>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I
>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase).
>>
>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game
>> > list to be date desc?
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100
>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@netcabo.pt>
>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering
>> To: scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or
>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, then
>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this.
>>
>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote:
>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted
>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a
>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I
>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase).
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game
>> >> list to be date desc?
>> >
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> Ascending is the standard for databases, ever was. For some reason we
> learned the alphabet like a-b-c and the numeric system like 1-2-3.
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> On 04-05-2015 15:55, Maksim Grinman wrote:
>>
>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open
>> a games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to
>> open with the most recent games on top?
>>
>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
>> <mailto:scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
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>>     Message: 1
>>     Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400
>>     From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>>
>>     Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering
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>>     Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game
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>>     Message: 2
>>     Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000
>>     From: Steve A <stevena...@gmail.com <mailto:stevena...@gmail.com>>
>>     Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering
>>     To: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>>,
>>            scidvspc-users
>>             <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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>> <mailto:w...@mail.gmail.com>>
>>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>>     Once a database is sorted, it is always that way.
>>     (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases).
>>     If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be
>>     sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be
>>     shown.
>>     See the sort help topics.
>>
>>     Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the
>>     last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game)
>>
>>     S.A.
>>
>>     On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game
>>     > list to be date desc?
>>     >
>>     >
>>     
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     > One dashboard for servers and applications across
>>     Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>     > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>     > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable
>>     Insights
>>     > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
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>>     Message: 3
>>     Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400
>>     From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>>
>>     Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering
>>     To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>     <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
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>> <mailto:cagrtvodb8nix2aj6bdgjge3qkc5kq0wxufzdzxd4sqhjv8q...@mail.gmail.com>>
>>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>>     That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted
>>     descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a
>>     feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I
>>     can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase).
>>
>>     On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game
>>     > list to be date desc?
>>
>>
>>
>>     ------------------------------
>>
>>     Message: 4
>>     Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100
>>     From: Valente Silva <gu...@netcabo.pt <mailto:gu...@netcabo.pt>>
>>     Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering
>>     To: scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>     <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>     Message-ID: <5546b22b.8060...@netcabo.pt
>>     <mailto:5546b22b.8060...@netcabo.pt>>
>>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>>     Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or
>>     descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list,
>>     then
>>     up... I don't see the need to get more than this.
>>
>>     On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote:
>>     > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default
>>     sorted
>>     > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a
>>     > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code
>>     where I
>>     > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase).
>>     >
>>     > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman
>>     <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game
>>     >> list to be date desc?
>>     >
>>     
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>     Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>     > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>     > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable
>>     Insights
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