Got this from Steve Steinitz (li...@datatactics.com.au): > Hey man, I don’t have the original thread - I seem to only get the digest, > despite my settings otherwise, and so can't reply to the specific thread. > Sorry. That said, its unlikely anything will get done in either case. > > Feel free to cite my support - the old-on-top sorting is useless at best. > > Regards, > > Steve
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm ready to drop it because it's really not that big a deal, but I > want to add that though I haven't used Chessbase for a couple years > now, I don't remember this being a problem there. Chessbase thought > about what users want, and got this part right. > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> What does the order that we learn something have anything to do with >> this? Whenever I do a SQL query where I need to see the latest few >> rows, I do order by time desc, and when I open my games list, I want >> the latest one at the top, not the bottom. I don't care about the game >> I played 2 years ago when I started recording my games. I don't know >> about any standards to have old stuff be shown to you as more >> important. >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:58 PM, >> <scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>> scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> scidvspc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Maksim Grinman) >>> 2. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Valente Silva) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:55:22 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> Message-ID: >>> <cagrtvoe3bd1c1mkh3kere7b3hezavgj6ne3gv-t87rs4dgi...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open a >>> games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to open >>> with the most recent games on top? >>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>>> scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> scidvspc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb= >>>> g...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>>> From: Steve A <stevena...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com>, scidvspc-users >>>> <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F= >>>> w...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>>> shown. >>>> See the sort help topics. >>>> >>>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>>> >>>> S.A. >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> < >>>> cagrtvodb8nix2aj6bdgjge3qkc5kq0wxufzdzxd4sqhjv8q...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@netcabo.pt> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> Message-ID: <5546b22b.8060...@netcabo.pt> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, then >>>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>>> >>>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> >> list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>>> ********************************************* >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 22:58:46 +0100 >>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@netcabo.pt> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> To: scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Message-ID: <5547eb96.3060...@netcabo.pt> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>> >>> Ascending is the standard for databases, ever was. For some reason we >>> learned the alphabet like a-b-c and the numeric system like 1-2-3. >>> >>> On 04-05-2015 15:55, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>> >>>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open >>>> a games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to >>>> open with the most recent games on top? >>>> >>>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>>> scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:scidvspc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> scidvspc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:scidvspc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> >>>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb=g...@mail.gmail.com >>>> <mailto:g...@mail.gmail.com>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>>> From: Steve A <stevena...@gmail.com <mailto:stevena...@gmail.com>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>>, >>>> scidvspc-users >>>> <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F=w...@mail.gmail.com >>>> <mailto:w...@mail.gmail.com>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>>> shown. >>>> See the sort help topics. >>>> >>>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>>> >>>> S.A. >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <cagrtvodb8nix2aj6bdgjge3qkc5kq0wxufzdzxd4sqhjv8q...@mail.gmail.com >>>> <mailto:cagrtvodb8nix2aj6bdgjge3qkc5kq0wxufzdzxd4sqhjv8q...@mail.gmail.com>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <maxc...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@netcabo.pt <mailto:gu...@netcabo.pt>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> Message-ID: <5546b22b.8060...@netcabo.pt >>>> <mailto:5546b22b.8060...@netcabo.pt>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, >>>> then >>>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>>> >>>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default >>>> sorted >>>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code >>>> where I >>>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman >>>> <maxc...@gmail.com <mailto:maxc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> >> list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> <mailto:Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>>> ********************************************* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 2 >>> ********************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y _______________________________________________ Scidvspc-users mailing list Scidvspc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users