On 06/25/2014 01:26 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Yasha Karant <[email protected]> wrote:

I was not referring to the Fedora mechanism.  Some licensed-for-fee
commercial unix environments (not linux) used on primary servers allow for
major release upgrade in place.
Does the Red Hat method that is mentioned by Red Hat allow for this, or is
the Red Hat enterprise z-stream "insane" to use in a production situation?

If it is not insane but actually is effective, are there no Linux or GPL
encumbrances on z-stream that "force" Red Hat to release the source?
Please see this documentation:

https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Migration_Planning_Guide/chap-Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Migration_Planning_Guide-Upgrade_Tools.html

But it is supported only in some use cases. The details are summarized here:

https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/799813
(this one needs subscription to read)

Akemi
Although this issue evidently is not of interest to some participants in this list, it may be to others. I read the public documentation, and everything seems the norm with many commercial unix technologies that provide similar functionality. In a worst case, quoting from the public document:

Data that could be used for "cloning" the system, if the in-place upgrade is not suitable.

end quote

that presumably means reminding one of which files/directories must be preserved on a "partition" that will not be touched (the usual method whereby one must reformat the partitions that will be used for the core system environment, such as /boot and /usr, etc., and vital files/directories from these areas must be copied to areas that will not be "touched"). We do keep such a list and do this copying operation manually, but we have missed things in the past, having gone through a number of major release upgrades over the years.

Unfortunately, I do not have access to a Red Hat subscription. Without quoting, and thus presumably violating access restrictions, would some who does have such a subscription kindly summarize (re-word) the use cases in which the upgrade-in-place mechanism that Red Hat marketing so touts actually cannot be used?

Yasha Karant

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