I got one of those e-mails yesterday too. I hadn't looked that closely
at the headers, but you're right, it does seem that the Fermilab
Listserv has been moved to Microsoft servers (outlook.com &
office365.com in the Received headers). Other people who've reported
this removal on this list all seem to indicate that the first error was
reported on 2018-09-04, which is what I had in my e-mail too. Maybe
that's when they moved the Listserv to Office 365?
A couple other weird things I noticed:
1. Despite the notice that I was removed from the list, I'm still
getting these e-mails from the list.
2. Unlike the last reported error in Fred's e-mail, which was a
500-range error and therefore a permanent error (mail rejection), the
one in my e-mail was:
- The last reported error was: 5.4.300 550 5.4.300 Message expired -> 451 4.7.1
Greylisting in action, please come back later
The 400-range error codes are temporary failures, and aren't supposed to
be treated as a permanent rejection of the e-mail: the sending server is
supposed to retry later. So why is the listserv counting this as a
delivery error? Both of these cause me to question whether there's some
sort of misconfiguration behind all this.
On 11/16/2018 09:04 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
I got something similar.
I was about to mark it as spam, and now that I see that someone else
got the same thing, I'm definitely marking it as spam.
I certainly hope that Fermilab's list-serve hasn't been switched to
something called "onmicrosoft.com
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__onmicrosoft.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=8UYvB9kyCvxPbVAVbxBPLuxAMhRBS63SUktuf6IfYL4&s=zK5XCFUiPiJ2vKpF9W4fGEOsmd9rdrs6IPnzTDgPlUo&e=>"
And ... then I just looked ... and indeed it has. Youch.
Troy
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:46 AM Fred Liu <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I lost the mails from 11/12 to 11/15 ...
Fred Liu <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
于2018年11月16日周五 下午6:41写道：
>
> What is this?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Fermilab LISTSERV Server (16.0)
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: 2018年11月15日周四 下午2:02
> Subject: Your removal from the SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list
> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>
>
>
> Thu, 15 Nov 2018 00:02:23
>
> You have been automatically removed from the
SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS list
> (Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide) as a
result of
> repeated delivery error reports from your mail system. This
decision was
> based on the list's automatic error monitoring policy and has
not been
> reviewed or otherwise confirmed by a person. If you receive this
message,
> then it means that something is wrong. While you are obviously
able to
> receive mail, your mail system has been regularly reporting
that your
> account did not exist, or that you were otherwise permanently
unable to
> receive mail. Here is some information that may assist you or
your local
> help desk in determining the cause of the problem:
>
> - The failing address is [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>.
>
> - The first error was reported on 2018-09-04.
>
> - Since then, a total of 7 delivery errors have been received.
>
> - The last reported error was: 5.1.8 550 5.1.8 Access
denied, bad
> outbound sender. For more information please
go to
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__go.microsoft.com_fwlink_-3FLinkId-3D526653&d=DwIFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=2eiNF49aI3l4On-amZwE_VfT8INXz4Pu6j7ka2QY_JU&s=kEnPyA_eYCgoMC99GPlHKTN2L6wAq2LfsPhHwaLAO7Q&e=.
S(8991)
> [DM2PR09MB0399.namprd09.prod.outlook.com
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__DM2PR09MB0399.namprd09.prod.outlook.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=8UYvB9kyCvxPbVAVbxBPLuxAMhRBS63SUktuf6IfYL4&s=NXznFuJT2s7NuV9w7NFfpDU1fy-kJo4Ww74g8SKu6wA&e=>]
> [BL2PR09CA0020.namprd09.prod.outlook.com
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__BL2PR09CA0020.namprd09.prod.outlook.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=8UYvB9kyCvxPbVAVbxBPLuxAMhRBS63SUktuf6IfYL4&s=LVdfLk3iA1ieJFyVKfUcZPSHgUw6MVc30PKu4gjScK4&e=>]
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>
> Please do not ignore this message. While you can
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> administrator so that it can be solved. This problem is not
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> This means that you may have lost some private mail as
well. Anyone
> trying to write to you during the same time frame might have
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