A note:
On 12/9/20 11:05 AM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 10:25:36AM -0500, Larry Linder wrote:
Everytime I am forced to use Windows 10 my neurons rebel at the moron
aware SW.
I am sorry you are in the position where you are forced to use Windows,
I feel lucky that I can "just say no!".
For those of us who must work in the "real world", unfortunately many
applications have no work alike for Linux, but typically proprietary
licensed for fee applications only for MS Win and/or Mac OS X. Anything
proprietary for Mac OS X is impossible to legally use in the USA and EU
other than on an Apple (hardware) platform. I will not use a dual-boot
system as this is both cumbersome and open to all sorts of compromises,
particularly from MS Win. I have tried Cross-over (supported Wine), but
it is too limited in the reliable support of current MS Win
applications. I currently use MS Win 10 under both VMware Player and
VirtualBox under, first, SL, and now Ubuntu LTS, as the platform I use
did come with a MS Win license. Under this MS Win 10, I use proprietary
applications not available for Linux. I also find MS Win 10 miserable
and cumbersome, with a horrid and time consuming upgrade process (I
experienced that because the current production release of an
application I use required a later release of MS Win 10 than was on the
virtual machine and I had to waste a day whilst MS Win 10 upgraded,
rebooted, upgraded, rebooted, etc., but one does not have a choice.
I do use LibreOffice and other workalikes.
This problem is not new. When Sun was still a vendor and had desktop
workstations with a Sparc platform, it was forced to introduce an add-on
board with a X86 processor to run MS Win under Solaris so that such MS
Win applications could be run, as many users did not want two desktop
machines, a Sun for "real" work, and a MS Win box for "general use
applications". Sun originally bought VirtualBox for this purpose once
Sun had switched to a X86 hardware platform. Now of course this is all
part of Oracle as the oligopolies increase.
As the supporters of GNU retire and die off - the new generation has no
desire to stay the course.
This works both ways. I used to think Richard Stallman was a cook and a crank.
Today I see his apocalyptic predictions for evils of "unfree" software
come true (and then some) in the cell phone universe.
If we live through covid, I may yet become an FSF card carrying member! (Likely
with the Torvaldskist schismatic branchnicks who refuse to say "GNU/Linux").
The bright side is that there is no automatic self destruct mechanism in
Linux so even when the official support is ended we can still user what
we have but not be able to upgrade our applications.
So true, if not for C++11, I would say "SL6 forever!".
... the cost of just dumping 50 systems and install new OS's and
applications is beyond our budget. ...
Even for people with deep pockets, administrative, logistics, downtime
and man power costs make it impractical, except for "once every 5-10 years".
People who just invested in a migration to el8 to be told now that
they have to migrate again next year must be severely unhappy right now.
I cannot fathom how Red Hat did not "ask around" before going public
with their decision. (unless the decision was forced on them externally).
So the sword had many sharp edges.
Well, it is the dull sword that is most dangerous (to the user). Join
your local Iaido club and find out for yourself.
