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> Em 23 de jun. de 2021, à(s) 02:00, SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS automatic digest > system <[email protected]> escreveu: > > There are 10 messages totaling 972 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability (10) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 15:45:33 +0000 > From: Dave Dykstra <[email protected]> > Subject: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwIGaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=kwxuy5ps6ut13fMH-N31WmTc1k6n8W3qkYbzHMGeFcI&s=DVSDtTjoWnPkWg6C0JSfFiHMQugqpDIqzx_by9faa3Y&e= > > > Dave > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 09:06:24 -0700 > From: Yasha Karant <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL > 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need > to be answered are below. > > How easy was manual disk partitioning? > > How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from > ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not > available from the base distro? > > How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed > (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )? > > Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function > (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4? > > After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical > applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro? > > My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the > problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the > RHEL 8 from IBM RH. > > Yasha Karant > >> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=RGQs2eqv5ebw95F1nVbIcCtySC9IF-N6FeB_gNrbfY8&s=U1iRg1x7zz9eQI5X5MbA8XFNvoCjU5VrsC5ISkZ2Y_4&e= >> >> >> Dave >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:34:36 +0000 > From: "Teh, Kenneth M." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm > stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a > url. Please post if anyone knows one. > > > ________________________________ > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> on behalf of Yasha Karant > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM > To: scientific-linux-users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL > 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need > to be answered are below. > > How easy was manual disk partitioning? > > How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from > ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not > available from the base distro? > > How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed > (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )? > > Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function > (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4? > > After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical > applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro? > > My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the > problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the > RHEL 8 from IBM RH. > > Yasha Karant > >> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=RGQs2eqv5ebw95F1nVbIcCtySC9IF-N6FeB_gNrbfY8&s=U1iRg1x7zz9eQI5X5MbA8XFNvoCjU5VrsC5ISkZ2Y_4&e= >> >> Dave >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:48:10 +0000 > From: "Teh, Kenneth M." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > I found the repo url. But no go on the install via the boot iso. It failed > to retrieve an rpm after having retrieved several, glib2 in particular. > Probably, download infrastructure is in a state of flux (?). I'll try again > later in the week. > > > > ________________________________ > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> on behalf of Teh, Kenneth M. > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:34 PM > To: Yasha Karant <[email protected]>; scientific-linux-users > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm > stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a > url. Please post if anyone knows one. > > > ________________________________ > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> on behalf of Yasha Karant > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM > To: scientific-linux-users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL > 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need > to be answered are below. > > How easy was manual disk partitioning? > > How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from > ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not > available from the base distro? > > How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed > (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )? > > Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function > (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4? > > After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical > applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro? > > My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the > problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the > RHEL 8 from IBM RH. > > Yasha Karant > >> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=RGQs2eqv5ebw95F1nVbIcCtySC9IF-N6FeB_gNrbfY8&s=U1iRg1x7zz9eQI5X5MbA8XFNvoCjU5VrsC5ISkZ2Y_4&e= >> >> Dave >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:51:11 -0500 > From: Jon Pruente <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM Teh, Kenneth M. < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm >> stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or >> a url. Please post if anyone knows one. >> > > I had the same problem with the boot ISO. I used the minimal ISO to install > a VM with a plain base system with DHCP networking and > automatic partitioning. After rebooting into the installed OS everything > seemed fine. I refreshed repo data, installed epel-release, refreshed > again, then installed some basic tools from BaseOS and EPEL. For an > initial install it was fine. > > ISTR it was CentOS that had a similar missing repo URL problem with their > first 8 release. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 22:23:15 +0000 > From: Dave Dykstra <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > CentOS 8.4 release notes says they fixed that issue in that release, > after having resolved it in CentOS Stream 8. > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.centos.org_Manuals_ReleaseNotes_CentOS8.2105-23Fully-5FFunctional-5FBoot-5FISO&d=DwIGaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=kwxuy5ps6ut13fMH-N31WmTc1k6n8W3qkYbzHMGeFcI&s=qFqkh3Y4HZOSLVznVnerNyYAcnY3iu-KDLE7KPV0Fb8&e= > > > I suggest reporting the problem to bugs.rocky.org. > > Dave > >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 01:51:11PM -0500, Jon Pruente wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM Teh, Kenneth M. < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm >>> stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or >>> a url. Please post if anyone knows one. >>> >> >> I had the same problem with the boot ISO. I used the minimal ISO to install >> a VM with a plain base system with DHCP networking and >> automatic partitioning. After rebooting into the installed OS everything >> seemed fine. I refreshed repo data, installed epel-release, refreshed >> again, then installed some basic tools from BaseOS and EPEL. For an >> initial install it was fine. >> >> ISTR it was CentOS that had a similar missing repo URL problem with their >> first 8 release. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:45:33 -0500 > From: Jon Pruente <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:23 PM Dave Dykstra <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> CentOS 8.4 release notes says they fixed that issue in that release, >> after having resolved it in CentOS Stream 8. >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.centos.org_Manuals_ReleaseNotes_CentOS8.2105-23Fully-5FFunctional-5FBoot-5FISO&d=DwIBaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=X9IvmR0o7fmjMmy0QZhlH0vt2buTUoZNVMsuzJtMxck&s=FQivkZgxWQhjquM9obVjpYrDY3_zeTPenrAJnE1OG0Y&e= >> >> >> I suggest reporting the problem to bugs.rocky.org. >> >> Dave >> > > I had thought the issue was resolved long ago. I'm amazed it took them > almost 2 years and 4 more releases to actually fix it. Turns out that I've > been using the CentOS Minimal ISO this whole time. I have, however, filed a > bug with Rocky for it. Thanks for the link to the CentOS note, as I've > included that in the bug report. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 23:11:40 +0000 > From: Dave Dykstra <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > It worked for me just now to use > download.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/8/BaseOS/x86_64/os > and select a minimal install. > > Dave > >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 05:48:10PM +0000, Teh, Kenneth M. wrote: >> I found the repo url. But no go on the install via the boot iso. It failed >> to retrieve an rpm after having retrieved several, glib2 in particular. >> Probably, download infrastructure is in a state of flux (?). I'll try again >> later in the week. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: [email protected] >> <[email protected]> on behalf of Teh, Kenneth >> M. <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:34 PM >> To: Yasha Karant <[email protected]>; scientific-linux-users >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability >> >> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm >> stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a >> url. Please post if anyone knows one. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: [email protected] >> <[email protected]> on behalf of Yasha Karant >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM >> To: scientific-linux-users <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability >> >> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL >> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need >> to be answered are below. >> >> How easy was manual disk partitioning? >> >> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from >> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not >> available from the base distro? >> >> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed >> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )? >> >> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function >> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4? >> >> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical >> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro? >> >> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the >> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the >> RHEL 8 from IBM RH. >> >> Yasha Karant >> >>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote: >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwIGaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=kwxuy5ps6ut13fMH-N31WmTc1k6n8W3qkYbzHMGeFcI&s=DVSDtTjoWnPkWg6C0JSfFiHMQugqpDIqzx_by9faa3Y&e= >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 01:43:02 +0000 > From: "Teh, Kenneth M." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > Ok. Will try it out. I did not choose a minimal install. I think I did a > server install and selected some additional package groups: GNOME, > development, system tools, and one more which I dont remember. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave Dykstra <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 6:11 PM > To: Teh, Kenneth M. <[email protected]> > Cc: scientific-linux-users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > It worked for me just now to use > download.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/8/BaseOS/x86_64/os > and select a minimal install. > > Dave > >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 05:48:10PM +0000, Teh, Kenneth M. wrote: >> I found the repo url. But no go on the install via the boot iso. It failed >> to retrieve an rpm after having retrieved several, glib2 in particular. >> Probably, download infrastructure is in a state of flux (?). I'll try again >> later in the week. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: [email protected] >> <[email protected]> on behalf of Teh, Kenneth >> M. <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:34 PM >> To: Yasha Karant <[email protected]>; scientific-linux-users >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability >> >> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm >> stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or a >> url. Please post if anyone knows one. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: [email protected] >> <[email protected]> on behalf of Yasha Karant >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM >> To: scientific-linux-users <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability >> >> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL >> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need >> to be answered are below. >> >> How easy was manual disk partitioning? >> >> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from >> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not >> available from the base distro? >> >> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed >> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )? >> >> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function >> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4? >> >> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical >> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro? >> >> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the >> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the >> RHEL 8 from IBM RH. >> >> Yasha Karant >> >>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote: >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwIFAw&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=Jv3AaE5g_mSo58RbU-YPCu-rFk-eOddCa2WcSsN2i9Q&s=2-1uWNIYIGcgeypV8jS6BidRs_g9QKNNyp9dWKWm_70&e= >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 19:59:00 -0700 > From: Yasha Karant <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability > > Typically, a minimal install for a workstation is some window manager > and bare bones utilities. Assuming one wants either a fully functional > workstation or a server, how does one move from the bare bones to what > one wants? > > On previous major release SL installs (and current Ubuntu LTS initial > install -- after that, one seems to be able to get to later major > releases without doing a full install, merely upgrade in place), I get > to install "packages" I want from the base distro, and then I expand > from the other repos. A bare bones install seems as it might not have > the packages one wants. > > Also, does a bare bones install allow for manual partitioning of a drive > (both "hard" and SSD)? > > Yasha Karant > >> On 6/22/21 4:11 PM, Dave Dykstra wrote: >> It worked for me just now to use >> download.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/8/BaseOS/x86_64/os >> and select a minimal install. >> >> Dave >> >>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 05:48:10PM +0000, Teh, Kenneth M. wrote: >>> I found the repo url. But no go on the install via the boot iso. It failed >>> to retrieve an rpm after having retrieved several, glib2 in particular. >>> Probably, download infrastructure is in a state of flux (?). I'll try >>> again later in the week. >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] >>> <[email protected]> on behalf of Teh, Kenneth >>> M. <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:34 PM >>> To: Yasha Karant <[email protected]>; scientific-linux-users >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability >>> >>> I tried the boot iso but it does not have a built-in list of mirrors. I'm >>> stuck at the installation source. I need a url, either a specific repo or >>> a url. Please post if anyone knows one. >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] >>> <[email protected]> on behalf of Yasha Karant >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:06 AM >>> To: scientific-linux-users <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Rocky Linux 8.4 General Availability >>> >>> Would those who have a spare machine (or more) and who install Rocky EL >>> 8.4 please comment to this list. Some of the questions that might need >>> to be answered are below. >>> >>> How easy was manual disk partitioning? >>> >>> How easy was selection of options, including the use of those from >>> ElRepo et al that are standard repositories of often needed "addons" not >>> available from the base distro? >>> >>> How easy was it to maintain non-systems areas that might be needed >>> (e.g., /home , /opt , /usr/local )? >>> >>> Do applications that are needed and function under SL still function >>> (perhaps with later release versions) on Rocky EL 8.4? >>> >>> After running Rocky EL 8.4 for a bit with a real load of typical >>> applications and uses (and users as well), how stable is this distro? >>> >>> My understanding from previous postings to this list is that the >>> problems are not just with a clone port of EL 8, but intrinsic to the >>> RHEL 8 from IBM RH. >>> >>> Yasha Karant >>> >>> On 6/22/21 8:45 AM, Dave Dykstra wrote: >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.rockylinux.org_t_rocky-2Dlinux-2D8-2D4-2Davailable-2Dnow&d=DwICaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=900BoUzT1UboaXTCd5bqp2ABPOlO9GJJJA1WE8o18vU&s=DIFSIW-zURjOQy8n9l2HkpDU9gqAzjcmnu79wdKWjGE&e= >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> > > ------------------------------ > > End of SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS Digest - 13 May 2021 to 22 Jun 2021 (#2021-54) > ****************************************************************************
