Well, curriegrad, there are a few people who tend to infest Linux
distro lists that are fortunately not present here. They are
"beginners determined to stay beginners and are obnoxious about it."
Then there are the email format gurus who know there is one best way
to do things. That's missing here. The goal is making something work.
Now THAT is something technical people, scientists and to a lesser
degree technical science students feature in large measure. From
OUR standpoint that's the way it should be. For us that's the right
way. That doesn't seem to be the case on larger groups and lists.
<sigh>
{o.o}
On 2011/05/13 10:05, curriegrad2004 wrote:
Sadly, this attitude is the plight of almost all OSS projects out
there. Not to offend anybody, but attitude issues and this mentality
that "I'm better than all of you guys" is just quite unacceptable.
When I was starting out with CentOS, I had some questions regarding
basic network routing and where I should save my iptables rules as I
basically migrated right from Ubuntu (or was it OpenSuSE?, can't
remember the grisly details). The response I got was quite...
amusing... and I'd like to leave it that way if anybody wants to dig
deeper. This all happened on their Freenode IRC channel, by the way.
And yes, before I left that pit, I mentioned to them that it was quite
ironic for them to have a page asking for donations while they're
handing out attitude en masse to anybody who asks questions about the
distro. A simple way to put this problem in a quote "You don't bite
the people who support/feed you".
Hey, everybody starts out as a beginner at some point, and the real
simple rule is, don't bash them or make them feel unwelcome.
If anybody's interested, they can always look at the DD-WRT forums,
it's even more of a joke over there. There's a specific person out
there giving attitude all day on their forums, yet nobody has cared to
stop him from making those comments.
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Phil Perry<[email protected]> wrote:
On 13/05/11 08:09, jdow wrote:
On 2011/05/12 21:52, Nathan Yehle wrote:
SL got mentioned here:
http://blog.2ndquadrant.com/en/2011/05/the-rise-and-fall-of-centos.html
"Well, that party is over. Last week Dag publicly announced he was
resigning from CentOS development work, seemingly over development
team communication issues. In the comments there, Dag specifically
suggests Scientific Linux as the right distribution to move to now,
saying "their process is more open and the people are actually
friendly to feedback."
Still no centos 6 but SL6 is looks to be going strong thanks again! I
haven't had time to try SL6 yet but I hear it has some nice features
to share memory between kvm vms.
-Nate
Nate, after surviving over a decade of RedHat/Fedora, Mandrake/Mandriva,
and Ubuntu groups this is the most civilized group I've run across in
the Linux world. (Mint is not bad. But, it's tainted by Ubuntu.)
Even the BSD groups I visted are more civilized than the nain Linux
groups. And as I say, so far this group stands head and shoulders over
all the other related groups I've monitored.
Kudos folks.
{^_^} Joanne Dow
IMHO I suspect that's largely an academic thing. [Some] UNIX/Linux ML
mentality versus the typical academics instinct to share knowledge and
assist others couldn't be further apart.
Most scientists by definition are bright people and don't tend to feel the
need to constantly prove themselves on public mailing lists.
