On 07/11/2011 03:20 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
Brad wrote:
On 07/11/2011 01:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
[email protected] wrote:
I can't install SL 6.0 off the live CD or the
install DVD because it requires a pae kernel and the laptop does
not have a pae cpu.=20
I do hope this horrid "pae required" decision is circumvented for
SL/CentOS users.
I know that SL does not circumvent this. I suspect CentOS does not
either.
Well I just tried SL6, CentOS 6, and RHEL 6 and every one of has the
same pae kernel in them. I guess I will just have to stick
with Fedora 14 on that laptop.
Ever since I have been plying with Linux I don't remember
have a Live CD or an install CD/DVD wanting a specific kernel, the
install
would find the pae or not in the cpu and install the correct kernel.
Is
this some thing Red Hat is doing because of the dual core and above
cpu's now
days, or is it some conspiracy theory trying to make us all give or
throw our old PC away and buy new ones.
Leaving non-PAE-processor-wedded efforts to shrug and do without
RHEL/SL/CentOS?
Not because we want to, nor because there's something better...
On a family vacation potty-stop (RHEL 5->6) everybody got out of the
car, but the non-PAE kids weren't let back in. The family car drove
off, and we're left to our own devices.
*sigh*
Suggestion 1: publish a kernel based on the sources, with PAE disabled.
Suggestion 2: Publish the kernel sources so "yum install
full-kernel-source" will enable me to do the same.
Suggesting I can do it all myself equates to saying I can grab my
skate-board and the bumper and stay with the family.
The world is more than i686/PAE/multi-core.
RHEL's decision declares that they're uninterested in the low-power
embedded market (where most computers are).
I have 1 i686/PAE/MultiCore desktop gaming machine at home.
I also have a microwave, refrigerator, freezer, 2 clocks, a boom-box, a
router, a modem, a keyboard/synthesizer, and (soon) security devices,
*all* of which are (or will soon be upgraded to) embedded-controlled
devices. I see computer-controlled door knobs in hotels, cars, business
offices, and expect (soon) to see them on houses. 90% or more computers
are embedded, headless, smaller than i686, and non-PAE.
There are, also, the non-PAE, non-i686 machines I code on for a living.
Do you (RHEL/CentOS, *and* SL) suggest I just go elsewhere?
I am a firm believer that a person should use the Linux distribution
that is right for them.
SL does not support ARM, PPC, Itanium or non-i686 machines.
RHEL6/CentOS6/SL6 does not support non-PAE processors, natively.
If you have to program on those other processors, then it sounds like SL
(and I dare say RHEL) is not the correct distribution for you.
Troy
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