On 03/26/2013 10:10 AM, Connie Sieh wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Yasha Karant wrote:

Am I missing something here?  Does any other production vendor supply
GPU compute engine cards but Nvidia?       Are any GPU compute cards
fully
supported (including any additional interconnects beyond PCI) using
fully open source drivers and compilers/application support
generators/libraries?  To use the Nvidia GPU compute cards under CUDA,
it appears that the Nvidia proprietary driver is necessary.

Yasha Karant

On 03/25/2013 07:34 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
Um well
Frankly the proprietary driver is never up to date with the kernel and
it is well that's luck if it ever works with a new version of the kernel
after you have reinstalled "recompiled the module with code you can't
see against the new code"


If you  have a problem with the proprietary driver take it up with
?Nvidia. In theory you pay them to make it work correct ?
If you don't pay them for support then find a card that doesn't use
proprietary code.



-- Sent from my HP Pre3

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On Mar 25, 2013 9:59 PM, Jeff Siddall <[email protected]> wrote:

On 03/25/2013 12:41 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
> We are forced to use the Nvidia proprietary driver for two reasons:
>
> 1. We use the switched stereoscopic 3D mode of "professional" Nvidia
> video cards with the external Nvidia 3D switching emitter for the
> stereoscopic 3D "shutter glass" mode of various applications that
> display stereoscopic 3D images (both still and motion).
>
> 2. We need to load Nvidia CUDA in order to use the CUDA computational
> functions of Nvidia GPU compute cards in our GPU based compute
engines.
> The Nvidia CUDA system appears to require the proprietary Nvidia
driver.

Yup, I run the proprietary driver for VDPAU support. If anyone knows
how to get that from the open source driver I would like to know.

Jeff



The issue with the video card driver is with the vendor of the card.
Since you paid for the video card then you should contact the video card
vendor and have them "fix" what needs fixing.  They got your money now
they need to support their products.

-Connie Sieh

An excellent suggestion. The unfortunate reality is that for a least some of these products, the only well support environment is MS Windows, sometimes Mac OS X, and only lastly, open systems such as Linux or the BSD variants. In the case of Nvidia, the CUDA compute engines as well as the professional switched stereoscopic 3D do have a strong advertised support for and deployment under enterprise Linux. However, the reality is that the compatibility with existing Linux environments, e.g., SL, is not what one might desire for a "supported" product.

However, if enough of us who professionally use SL and other TUV EL variants sufficiently complain, it is possible that Nvidia will make all of this work -- provided the profit is there for the corporation. Unlike SL and related efforts, as far as I can tell, USA for profit corporations, such as Nvidia, only exist for one purpose -- that all overarching profit. All else is just lipservice. (This may not be the case in some EU nations in which for profit corporations are required to have real workers share in the shaping of policy and in real business management, unlike the Gompers model in which all the workers are concerned with are working conditions and financial compensation -- not the direction or societal value of the corporation.)

The above is not meant as a political statement or a statement of philosophy -- it is meant purely as a statement of factual reality -- a reality within which we must work if we want "them to 'fix' what needs fixing".

Yasha Karant

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