That is so sad to hear.  Outside of actual genetic defects, or problems due to 
cancers or accidents, or in the rare case someone really does have a glandular 
problem, I think that going the cosmetic surgery route is not a good thing.  
I'm still reeling from how many Black women are now starting to get surgery, 
worry about their weight unnecessarily, even suffer from bulemia and anorexia.  
That was something I never attributed to Sisters back when I was growing up.  

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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I know, Keith. It's something I'm presently thrashing out with two female 
reinds of mine. THey see any number of things they want to change about 
themselves, and I can't seem to convince either that they're beautiful as is. 
Today, one of them is going under the knife for lipo. Scares me.

The Yokozuna Of Soul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: She'd be a senator.

On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> What saddens me is this crazed thing people--women especially--go 
> through for fame. I'm not a fan of blondes anyway (I prefer 
> brunettes),so I never really got so many women's need to dye their 
> hair the way Anna Nicole did. And saddest of all, have you ever 
> seen pictures of her before she become blonde and plastic? She was 
> actually much prettier with brown hair and her natural chest. 
> (Ditto for Pamela Anderson, by the way). It's as if all these 
> actresses and would-be actresses are trying to be the second coming 
> of Marilyn Monroe. And now they can sell their souls for fifteen 
> minutes of reality show fame or commercials for questionable 
> products. Sad.
>
> Sometimes I wonder what Marilyn Monroe would have become had *she* 
> been born in this era...
>
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> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> 
> This is not off-topic, her life was out of this world, I to hope her
> daughter's life is less bizarre and full of trauma
> Tracey
>
> Martin wrote:
>>
>> That was my first thought too, Keith. Poor kid's lost her older
>> brother *and* her mother before she even got to know either of them,
>> and her parentage is still somewhere in the stratosphere.
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Not to speak ill of the dead, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is
>> drug-related. Smith had such a huge problem with them, and her
>> behaviour over the last few years was like someone either contstantly
>> on downers, or who'd been permanently damaged by drugs. I only hope
>> her newborn daughter has a better life...
>>
>> Anna Nicole Smith Dies
>> By SUZETTE LABOY, Associated Press Writer 21 minutes ago
>> Anna Nicole Smith, the voluptuous former Playboy centerfold who
>> married an octogenarian billionaire and waged a legal battle for his
>> fortune all the way to the Supreme Court, died Thursday after
>> collapsing at a hotel. She was 39.
>> The blond bombshell — who recently became tabloid fodder all over
>> again after the sudden, apparently drug-related death of her
>> 20-year-old son — was stricken while staying at the Seminole Hard 
>> Rock
>> Hotel and Casino and was rushed to a hospital.
>> Edwina Johnson, chief investigator of the Broward County Medical
>> Examiner's Office, said the cause of death was under investigation 
>> and
>> an autopsy would be done on Friday.
>> A private nurse called 911 after finding Smith unresponsive in her
>> sixth-floor room, said Seminole Police Chief Charlie Tiger. He said
>> Smith's bodyguard administered cardiopulmonary resuscitation about an
>> hour before she was declared dead.
>> Through the '90s and into the new century, Smith was famous for being
>> famous, a pop-culture punchline because of her up-and-down weight, 
>> her
>> exaggerated curves, her little-girl voice, her ditzy-blonde persona,
>> and her over-the-top revealing outfits.
>> The curvaceous Texas-born Smith was a topless dancer at strip club
>> before she entered her photos in a search contest and made the cover
>> of Playboy magazine in 1992, captivating readers with her Marilyn
>> Monroe looks. She became Playboy's playmate of the year in 1993.
>> She was also signed to a contract with Guess jeans, appearing in TV
>> commercials, billboards and magazine ads.
>> In 1994, she married 89-year-old oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall II, 
>> the
>> head of oil-based Koch Industries, which is part of a family fortune
>> worth at least $400 million. He died in 1995 at age 90, setting off a
>> feud with her former stepson, E. Pierce Marshall, over whether she 
>> had
>> a right to his estate.
>> A federal court in California awarded Smith $474 million. That was
>> later overturned. But in May, the U.S. Supreme Court revived her 
>> case,
>> ruling that she deserved another day in court in her battle with her
>> former stepson.
>> The stepson died June 20 at age 67. But the family said the court
>> fight would continue.
>> More recently, Smith's ballooning figure and up-and-down weight 
>> became
>> a subject of public fascination. But she lost a reported 69 pounds 
>> and
>> became a spokeswoman for TrimSpa, a weight-loss supplement.
>> She starred in her own reality TV series, "The Anna Nicole Show," in
>> 2002-04. Cameras followed her around as she sparred with her lawyer,
>> hung out with her personal assistant and interior decorator, and 
>> cooed
>> at her poodle, Sugar Pie. She also appeared in movies, performing a
>> bit part in "The Hudsucker Proxy" in 1994.
>> After news came of Smith's death, G. Eric Brunstad Jr., the lawyer 
>> who
>> represented Marshall, said in a statement: "We're very shocked by the
>> news and extend the deepest condolences to her family."
>> Smith's son, Daniel Smith, died Sept. 10 in his mother's hospital 
>> room
>> in the Bahamas, just days after she gave birth to a daughter.
>> An American medical examiner hired by the family, Cyril Wecht, 
>> said he
>> had methadone and two antidepressants in his system when he died. Low
>> levels of the three drugs interacted to cause an accidental death,
>> Wecht said. Last month, a Bahamas magistrate scheduled a formal
>> inquiry into the death for March 27.
>> Meanwhile, the paternity of her now 5-month-old daughter remained a
>> matter of dispute. The birth certificate lists Dannielynn's father as
>> attorney Howard K. Stern, Smith's most recent companion. Smith's
>> ex-boyfriend Larry Birkhead was waging a legal challenge, saying he
>> was the father.
>> Debra Opri, the attorney who filed his paternity suit, said Birkhead
>> "is devastated. He is inconsolable, and we are taking steps now to
>> protect the DNA testing of the child. The child is our number one
>> priority."
>> She was born Vickie Lynn Hogan on Nov. 28, 1967, in Houston, one of
>> six children of Donald Eugene and Virgie Hart Hogan. She married Bill
>> Smith in 1985, giving birth to Daniel before divorcing two years 
>> later.
>> "From my professional exposure to Anna Nicole, I can say she was
>> always personable, down to earth and driven. All in all, a joy to 
>> have
>> as a client," said Wayne Munroe, her Bahamian lawyer who has overseen
>> the aftermath of her son's mysterious death in Nassau.
>> Copyright © 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The
>> information contained in the AP News report may not be published,
>> broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written
>> authority of The Associated Press.
>>
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