I agree, but they are trying to take the risk out of movie making ( crazy huh?) and test audiences say it is too complex the "dumb it down" I think Lost and Heroes appeal to a large broad audience with enough of the most desirable target audience to allow it to work. I also think the formula for a blockbuster and a hit TV show are somewhat different. Please note: I'm not saying anyone really knows what those formula's are.
Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I remember back when MTV had "SHort Attention Span Theatre", and I > thought that was a silly title. How prescient it was! Still, though > the suits often dumb down entertainment, there are things that show > it's not necessary. Slowly-unfolding-mystery shows like "Lost" and > "Heroes" require a type of long-term attention, as they're not quick > payoffs. You get some excitement each ep, but the ultimate answers are > a long time coming. Viewers have to keep multiple characters and > multiple storylines in their heads. That requires something beyond the > quick instant gratification of one-shot shows. I think if we demand > more from the audiences, sometimes--sometimes--they will rise to the > challenge. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com>> > > > Martin: i'm with you. When I rent DVD's I do double features, but for > > the sure attention spans of the average movie goer, I wonder if it is > > too long. I've been reading accounts of some movies many of us dislike, > > but thought we might like where the powers that be decided that it was > > too long or the plot too complicated and ordered as much as 40 minutes > > out of the movie. This is getting increasingly common. > > > > Tracey > > > > Martin wrote: > > > > > > Tracey, foe me, I could tolerate the length of the LOTR movies > because > > > the books themselves read as though they were infinitely long as > well. > > > And, from my own history of illness, I'vve mastered the art of being > > > still for long periods of time. > > > > > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > > > > > > wrote: While I agree > > > that three hours is too long, wasn't Kill Bill and lord of > > > the rings long too? > > > > > > Tracey > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > yeah, I hear that Planet Terror isn't thought to be as good as > Death > > > > Proof. I still wish > > > > they could have left them together as one movie, though i admit > that a > > > > three hour length is too long. > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > From: "B. Smith" > > > > > I better get my butt in gear and check it out before it disappears. > > > > > > > > I grew up in New Orleans and there were several Grindhouse type > > > > theaters(The Circle, The Gallo, The Carver, The Famous, The > Orpheum, > > > > etc.) and I got to watch some of the same stuff that Tarantino > loves > > > > so much. Unfortunately those movies were cult flicks for a > reason. I > > > > get that Planet Terror is pastiche of Italian zombie gore flicks > but > > > > some folks don't. > > > > > > > > Another downside to the movie is the massive shift in tone from > > > > Planet Terror to Death Proof. It seems to be throwing some folks > off. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think I disagree with this. I don't think the idea of a double- > > > > feature is that hard to grasp, even for youngsters who've never > seen > > > > one before. Hell, I'm 43, and though I'm extremely familiar with > the > > > > term, I never saw one at the theatre back in the day. I think it > has > > > > more to do with whether the subject matter and marketing themselves > > > > were appealing. I think the girl with the machine-gun leg, adn the > > > > cheesy zombie shots made some people laugh, but maybe didn't excite > > > > them. People nowadays--espeically the young folk--seem to be going > > > > for that disgustingly explicit and gore-based horror that's all the > > > > rage. Stuff like "Saw", "Hostel", "Touristas", etc. Both of these > > > > flicks are very tongue-in-cheek and self-referential. Now, I > rmember > > > > the days of crap like "Boggy Creek", "MAcon COunty Line", "The > > > > Incredible Two-Headed Transplant", etc., so I want to see them. But > > > > for those who aren't my age, and for youngsters, the lack of > obvious > > > > horror gore or "Kill Bill" style fighting and acti > > > > > on may not be a draw. Perhaps--perhaps--the combined three hour > > > > length hurt a bit of business. But I think a tweak in > marketing--such > > > > as trailers shown--would be more effective. I'd hate to see the > > > > concept die just because the audience isn't hip or interested > enough > > > > to get it. > > > > > > > > > > Besides, sometimes the movie going public just doesn't get it. > > > > That's what DVD and On Demand rentals are for. "Grindhouse" is > gonna > > > > do very well there... > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > > > > > > > > > > > ovie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release > Grindhouse > > > > as two > > > > > > separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box > office. > > > > The > > > > > > film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert > > > > > > Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the > > > > US. > > > > > > Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's > Death > > > > Proof, > > > > > > starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose > > > > McGowan, > > > > > > will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, "I > don't > > > > think > > > > > > people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't > get the > > > > idea > > > > > > that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand > > > > the math, > > > > > > but I want to accommodate the audience." > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/ > <http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-11/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will > > > get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man > > > Without A Country" > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Get your own web address. > > > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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