too true! But then, I cut my teeth driving on I-30 between Dallas-Fort Worth 
late night. It was me and the truckers, battling for supremacy; when i wasn't 
there, i was negotiating the fast and fluid traffic of Houston. All that combat 
experience makes me about as home on the Atlanta roads as Speed Racer going up 
against the Car Acrobatic Team

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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
For those who've never had the pleasure of living in-slash-visiting Atlanta, 
Keith's wife doesn't like driving on the freeways because she likes living...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i feel you. When i take days off i rarely spend all 
day at the house. I will work in the yard for a while, maybe do some chores. 
But after a few hours i get lonely and need to be around people. So I always go 
to the gym and take classes, then meet a friend for lunch, or my wife. Or, i'll 
just go to the bookstore or the park to be around people. although i love to 
write, i don't often write in solitude. I like to go to a coffee shop or the 
park and write. that's one reason i don't like watching movies at home only. i 
really miss interacting with people at the theatre.

I think some of this is because i was often very lonely as a child. but a lot 
of it is due to my personality. I really am a strong extrovert.

As for where you live, i pay a hell of a lot more mortgage for living IP 
(Inside the Perimeter, the loop around Atlanta) than I'd pay if I lived in the 
suburbs. The main issue was quality of life: I like the diversity closer in, 
the proximity to malls and theatres and downtown (though I'm ten miles away 
from the city), and the better choices in roads. In the 'burbs, there's usually 
only one or two roads that one can take to get to the city, and they often get 
clogged and backed up. Living closer in, one has more choices of taking 
surface, residential streets to get around. My wife doesn't like driving on the 
freeway much, and we can get all the way to downtown Atlanta without ever 
getting on the freeway. if we lived in the 'burbs, she'd have to get on 
congested roads every day. I'd lie to live truly down closer to the city, but a 
house the size of the one i have now (2300 square feet), in the same condition 
(1981) would cost half a million on the low end

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From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
You know, after a decade of working at home, I really enjoyed my stint 
at Merrill Lynch and sometimes think about going in to work a Microsoft 
once I'm well. I loved the interaction with the people and the laid 
back atmosphere of the IT department. I still miss that and them. It 
was a fun place before O'Neal's influence could be felt. It puts you on 
on a social auto-pilot that you hinted at below that is difficult to 
maintain when you are self-employed, and are not required to go out. 
Right now, I live in the suburbs because my husband wanted to be able to 
reach me if I had an emergency and was incapacitated. Also its cheaper 
out here and we had to live off one salary during me illness. However, 
I've been trying to explain to my Mom that why we want to move to an 
active part of the city is because it is easier to roll out of bed and 
do things. In the past, if I had easy access to activities, I stayed 
more social. If it required a lot of effort to get through, eventually 
I would stop the activity. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Having to go to work everyday helped me, as there are some folks there I'm 
> able to talk and joke with (none in my immediate group, unfortunately). 
> Having gone through this before with my dad's death, and during a period when 
> I was unemployed for a few months, I literally have been forcing myself to 
> get up and out: going to movies, bookstores, going out to eat, hitting the 
> gym. Christmas was the worst, because this is the first Christmas in a decade 
> where I couldn't go back to Texas to be with family (had to work). it was sad 
> and lonely being here in Atlanta, but again I forced myself to smile when I 
> wanted to cry, to laugh when I wanted to yell.
>
> Having this group to talk to about stuff really helps too-more than you'd 
> believe.
>
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> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of 
> death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately 
> during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married 
> and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want 
> to inflict it on them.
>
> Reece Jennings wrote:
> 
>> I hear you!
>>
>> Maurice Jennings
>> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
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>>
>>
>> _____ 
>>
>> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Astromancer
>> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "National Treasure 2" Rules Box Office - :(
>>
>>
>>
>> I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more...
>>
>> Reece Jennings <mcjennings124@ <mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
>> wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm
>> a party voyeur...
>>
>> Maurice Jennings
>> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
>> KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
>> Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
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>> _____ 
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Martin
>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
>> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "National Treasure 2" Rules Box Office - :(
>>
>> No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one round
>> to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner to
>> cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
>> taken me to find three people like myself.
>>
>> Reece Jennings <mcjennings124@ <mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
>> wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the
>> one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
>> different from others? 
>>
>> I revel in being that way...now...LOL!
>>
>> Maurice Jennings
>> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
>> KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
>> Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
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>>
>> _____ 
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Martin
>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "National Treasure 2" Rules Box Office - :(
>>
>> Forgot to add on the literal "duck out of water" premise, which I sympathize
>> with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.
>>
>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote: Wow!
>> Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
>> question you had to anticipate... why?
>>
>> Martin wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest
>>>
>>> 
>> movie secrets.
>>
>> 
>>> I love "Howard the Duck".
>>>
>>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> 
>> <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
>>> comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(
>>>
>>> Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>> But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my
>>>>
>>>> 
>> milieu!
>>
>> 
>>>> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
>>>>
>>>> 
>> really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making
>> "National Treasure 2" the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I
>> tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as
>> background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go.
>> Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and
>> Voight ("just show me the money!!"). Not fun or clever or engaging at all.
>> Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing
>> against low brow humour (saw "Knocked Up" recently and loved it) or mindless
>> action flicks. I"m the guy who will watch "The Warriors" every single time
>> it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And "Face Off"? Pure cinematic
>> pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go "boom!". Love
>> that flick.
>>
>> 
>>>> But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in
>>>>
>>>> 
>> plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed
>> down from one President to another that details, among other things, the
>> truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr!
>>
>> 
>>>> Please tell me none of you watched it?
>>>>
>>>> ****************************
>>>>
>>>> "National Treasure" sleighs Christmas box office 
>>>> Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET 
>>>> Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel "National Treasure: Book of Secrets"
>>>>
>>>> 
>> raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North
>> America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday.
>>
>> 
>>>> The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film
>>>>
>>>> 
>> opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be
>> issued on Wednesday.
>>
>> 
>>>> Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17
>>>>
>>>> 
>> international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the
>> 2004 smash "National Treasure" stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies
>> around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's
>> assassination.
>>
>> 
>>>> Will Smith's sci-fi thriller "I Am Legend" was No. 2 with five-day sales
>>>>
>>>> 
>> of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner
>> Bros. Pictures.
>>
>> 
>>>> Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth
>>>>
>>>> 
>> Century Fox reported a four-day tally of $32.8 million for its surprise hit
>> "Alvin and the Chipmunks," saying it was impossible to estimate Christmas
>> Day sales. After 11 days, the kids film has earned $88.7 million.
>>
>> 
>>>> The fact-based political comedy "Charlie Wilson's War" earned $14.75
>>>>
>>>> 
>> million, and the Johnny Depp musical "Sweeney Todd" $12.75 million, both
>> after five days. Their respective studios, Universal Pictures and DreamWorks
>> Pictures, warned that the Christmas Day components were rough guesses.
>>
>> 
>>>> The box office jury is still out on "Charlie Wilson," a high-profile
>>>>
>>>> 
>> vehicle starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, which is playing in twice as
>> many theaters as "Sweeney Todd," which DreamWorks co-produced with Warner
>> Bros.
>>
>> 
>>>> Further down the rankings, "P.S. I Love You" had earned $9.1 million in
>>>>
>>>> 
>> its first five days. After a low-key opening weekend, Warner Bros. said it
>> hoped more women would turn out in force for the Hilary Swank tearjerker now
>> that Christmas-related chores are behind them.
>>
>> 
>>>> The musical spoof "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story" reported a four-day
>>>>
>>>> 
>> haul of $4.7 million. Distributor Columbia Pictures did not have a Christmas
>> Day estimate for the box office disappointment.
>>
>> 
>>>> Midfield rankings will change when final data are issued Wednesday
>>>>
>>>> 
>> because they will include sales for three Christmas Day releases: the action
>> sequel "Alien vs. Predator: Requiem," the Denzel Washington drama "The Great
>> Debaters," and the family fantasy "The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep."
>>
>> 
>>>> Walt Disney Pictures is a unit of Walt Disney Co. Warner Bros. is a unit
>>>>
>>>> 
>> of Time Warner Inc. Twentieth Century Fox is a unit of News Corp. Universal
>> Pictures, a unit of General Electric Co's NBC Universal. DreamWorks Pictures
>> is a unit of Viacom Inc. Columbia Pictures is a unit of Sony Corp.
>>
>> 
>>>> (Reporting by Dean Goodman; Editing by Stuart Grudgings)
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