amen! I hated the device of a Black man abandoning his wife and unborn child. I hated that, especially that line he said, something like "I may be back tomorrow, I may be back yesterday". I thought it was out of character for Benjamin to be so flip and relaxed about leaving! He literally go go off and train for a month, then pop back into our universe only an hour or so after leaving--or just seconds. With temporal abilities there's no need for him to be gone. I read a couple of DS9 books taking place just after these events and Cassidy was really missing Ben. Hated that plot.
what's up with Berman's manhood feelig threatened? -------------- Original message -------------- From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Regarding "What You Leave Behind"? Only that Paramount went on to push out how many TNG movies, and now over-hyping the reboot, when the biggest loose string in TV history, Captain Sisko's becoming a Prophet-in-training, goes unexplored because Rick Berman's manhood feels threatened? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please do elaborate! -------------- Original message -------------- From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When both shows began, I watched both equally, fully expecting DSNine to be the failure of the bunch because it was, IMO, *limited* by the constraints of the Trekverse (the stories could only do so much because there was so much continuity that had to be adhered to), while B5 was freer to roam. Both did come out slow, but many series do come out of the gate plodding. Each ended spectacularly, B5 marred only by its perpetuation in those really horrific movies (I didn't mind Crusade at all, unlike many B5 aficionados I knew at the time), DSNine marred by- well, we all know about 'What You Leave Behind", and I don't want to cause undue emotional scarring... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B5 season one is more interesting in the main than DS9's season one. It starts out a little rough, but as the mythos, cabals, conspiracies, and whispering of the Shadows starts, it becomes engaging. A few rough eps, but overall very good, and most of all intriguing enough to make you come back for the next season (great last ep). DS9 is--competent. It's like "Voyager", which had a good cast, professional writing, and an overal workmanlike feel, but wasn't very special. The early couple of seasons of DS9 really just felt like another Star Trek show with kinda familiar scripts, predictable plots, simple one-hour resolution of problems. I can look at some of those old eps and easily finish a character's sentences for him, because they're so canned (and really do this with "Voyager"). It wasn't until B&B spent less time with DS9 and others like Ronald Moore and Steven Behr got more influence that it took off. That's when the Dominion War came on, Sisko started exploring his role as the Emissary (and got the bald head and beard back!), Cardassia was brought forward as a major player, etc. It then became a complex show, full of long story arcs that lasted in some cases years, charcters full of flaws and heroism, action, angst, as well as plenty of humour. it then became, in my opinion, the best of all the Trek series. Is B5 better overall? I don't like to compare the two, despite the charges that DS9 stole JMS' ideas from his early pitch to Paramount. B5 is a little rougher, grittier at times, a bit more steeped in mysticism and legend. JMS' writing works better for long arcs and dramatic moments than for every day dialogue and standalone shows, which is where the Trek writers had it down pat. B5 reminds me more of reading stories from the Bible or from the Silmarillion, where you got broad sweeping concepts. I think each show is excellent, each has its place, and we're better for having had both of them. Giving a choice, I'd choose owning all DS9 shows over all B5 shows, but that's only if *forced* to make a choice, someting I'd not want to do. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Finished Season 1 with the last disc from netflix last night. The end actually worked out well enough for me to add Season 2 to my queue. It will be a while though as I have, Zodiac, The William Gibson documentary, Several seasons of The Wire and Deadwood to burn through. On a side note, I have decided to unleash my uberdork. In my queue I have set up a couple of rounds of dueling space stations. Babylon 5 Season 1 will be followed by Deep Space Nine Season 1. I don't know why I think this is such a cool idea. It is without question proof that I am total geek. Bosco __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
