It's not that I don't like the characters on Sarah Conner, it's just that 
they're one dimensional most of the time. There is so much possibility for 
these characters and primarily the writers do very little with them. There's so 
much room for emotional range and humor in that show and they tend to only 
focus on a small handful of emotions. Summer Glau is dangerously underdeveloped 
in that role. However, I do keep watching and hoping. It's not terrible, but 
it's certainly not what it could be either.

Bosco

--- On Wed, 10/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: How Did The Fall Scifi TV Shows Fare?
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 9:38 AM










    
            
You're right. The characters are as dull and lifeless as the CGI. Amada 
Tapping's British accent is distracting, the young pscyhoanalyst dude is like 
an even more nebbish version of Daniel Jackson. With Michael Shanks, at least, 
you could always tell the actor was being held back to play down to Daniel's 
role of bespectacled nerd, but the guy in Sanctuary is just boring. The most 
enjoyable character is Tapping's butt-kicking daughter, and she's nothing 
spectacular. She's just the only one with any *life* to her.
Why don't you like the characters on Sarah Conner Chronicles?
 
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From: Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> 






I think the real failing of this show is the flatness of the characters. I 
don't like or care about any of them. By three or four episodes, the characters 
should have some depth. The only show on TV with flatter characters is the 
Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles. I keep watching both in hopes that 
they would get better but they don't. 

Bosco

--- On Wed, 10/29/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net <KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net> 
wrote:

From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net <KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: How Did The Fall Scifi TV Shows Fare?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 9:05 AM





Yeah, I left out Sanctuary. It's just an okay show. Last weeks--about the 
illusion-casting Yeti that was attacking the survivors of a plane wreck--was 
the best so far. Of course, they killed off the only Brother... But still, the 
show feels limited to me. One, i really hate the computer game CGI effects in 
the backgrounds of the Sanctuary. It's obvious when the people are working 
against a green screen where the effects will be added later. Who told SciFi 
that the theme of a CGI-heavy show on the Web--where it at least makes a 
certain kind of sense and has a novelty--is good for television, where we're 
used to better?  Note those drab backgrounds. There's a lack of life and 
vitality that bothers me. Many videogames have a limited cast because of all 
the resources involved including them in the CGI scenes and such, and 
"Sanctuary" gives me that same limited film.
 
If they can get out of the Sanctuary more often and interact with the real 
world, instead of hanging against that color-challenged fake one, I might like 
it more.
 
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From: "B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> 


No rhyme or reason at all for her ratings and she's a bit biased. How 
does Sanctuary get an A for anything?

I'm surprised Heroes is tanking this year. It's actually interesting 
despite some X-Men-ish family melodrama. Papa Petrelli is a far 
scarier bid bad than Adam was last year, Mohinder has actually turned 
into a credible old school science based villain and the Sylar 
revelations have been fun. If only Peter and Claire got rid of their 
terminal stupidity. Oh well.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:
>
> Well, you know that I already lambasted "Knight Rider", so am 
surprised it did well enough to be picked up. ( I swear the original 
was better). "Valentine" was on my hit list too, not at all 
surprised it's tanking. I haven't watched "The Mentalist" yet; guess 
I kept thinking of it as a serious version of "Psych
". But i've heard BR>good things so will check it out if I get time. I'm 
surprised "Eleventh Hour" is doing as well. It's really just another 
procedural show with a mystery to solve, and starring a quirky lead 
doctor/scientist. It's like "House" on the road, or, a more grounded 
version of the out there science on "Fringe", another solve-the-
problem-of-the- week show with a quirky lead. "Eleventh Hour" is okay, 
but not a must see. I record it and watch "Life on Mars" instead.
> "Life on Mars" is at least entertaining so far. Not sure where 
it'll go. It's the kind of show that to me would realistically only 
stay fresh for one, possibly two, seasons. It has good actors, a good 
look, and actually decent plots. I'd give it a solid "B", not sure 
where in the world they came up with a "D" rating.
> Ditto for "My Own Worst Enemy". If I can quit worrying about the 
*why* of creating this split personality (for security I guess, but 
BR>it's still a s tretch), I can enjoy Slater as an actor. Still, you 
wonder who long the theme of each side recording messages to update 
the other side can last. A "B-" to me right now, again, due to good 
actors and at least interesting plots. But an "F"--what's the 
criterion this lady's using, her own tastes, or simply rating based 
on viewership?
> 
> ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
> How Did The Fall TV Shows Fare?
> 
> As the fall TV season hits its stride, the winners and losers have 
emerged, and it's a bloodbath out there. Ratings in general are 
horrible, and the major networks are still reeling from last year's 
writers' strike and a splintered viewership. 
> 
> Three series have already been pulled from the airwaves, including 
CBS' The Ex List. 
> 
> Herewith, the first of two SCI FI Wire assessments of how new a
nd 
returning SF&F shows made the grade, in descending order. Today, we 
look at the new shows. Tomorrow, returning series. 
> 
> (In the past if a TV series was on one of the four big broadcast 
networks, it needed to bring in 10 million viewers or so to prove it 
was worthy. For The CW, the number was lower, and 3 million viewers 
did the trick. Oh, how things have changed!) 
> 
> The Mentalist (CBS) Premiered with 15.55 million viewers. Last 
week, 15.29 million viewers. OK, he's a fake psychic, and it's not 
really science fiction, but we'll claim any show that does this well. 
It's the only certified hit for the new season, drawing great numbers 
against Fox's Fringe. Beyond that, it manages to keep 90 percent of 
its viewers from lead-in NCIS. That sounds like a match made in TV 
heaven. Grade: A+ 
> 
> Sanctuary (SCI FI) Premiered with 3 million viewers. Television's 
first mostly virtual series kick
ed off great, and it looks like a 
worthy successor to exiting SCI FI Friday shows Stargate Atlantis and 
Battlestar Galactica. Grade: A 
> 
> Eleventh Hour (CBS) Premiered with 11.59 million viewers. Last 
week, 12.16 million viewers. Not a hit, this show can't keep up with 
its lead-in C.S.I.'s big numbers. But it has built its audience and 
consistently does well against NBC's ER and ABC's Life on Mars. 
Whether or not the series will stay on Thursdays or be swapped with 
Tuesday's Without A Trace remains to be seen, but in this ratings 
environment those numbers look good. Grade: B+ 
> 
> Fringe (Fox) Premiered with 9 million viewers. Last week, 9.11 
million viewers. This show had the most hype heading into the fall 
season, so the ratings have been a bit of a disappointment. Still, 
considering the implosion of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles 
and some of Fox's other shows, 9 million+ viewers seems pretty goo
d. 
Grade: B 
> 
> Knight Rider (NBC) Premiered with 7.3 million viewers. Last week, 
7.23 million viewers. This lightweight show with apparent lightweight 
ratings wouldn't seem to be a keeper for NBC. But Knight Rider 
appeals strongly to the young male viewer, and that was good enough 
for a full-season pickup. Grade: C (NBC is owned by NBC Universal, 
which also owns SCIFI.COM.) 
> 
> Life on Mars (ABC) Premiered with 11.6 million viewers. Last week, 
8.06 million viewers. This British transplant got a strong sampling 
when it premiered and managed to beat out CBS' Eleventh Hour in a 
head-to-head ratings smackdown. Since then, it's been losing viewers 
each week, which is always a bad sign. Between Eli Stone on Tuesdays, 
Dirty Sexy Money on Wednesdays and Life on Mars on Thursdays, ABC is 
having a tough time in the 10 p.m. hour. Grade: D 
> 
> My Own Worst Enemy (NBC) Premiered with 7.27 million viewers.
 Last 
week, 5.72 million viewers. Another troubled show, My Own Worst Enemy 
didn't appeal to viewers from the beginning, despite heavy promotion. 
Part of the problem has to do with lead-in Heroes' anemic numbers 
this season, but Enemy loses viewers by the half-hour mark, and 
that's a bad, bad sign. It's possible NBC will try Enemy in another 
slot and bring its reliable Medium, which is waiting in the wings, 
back where it belongs on Mondays. Grade: D- Valentine (The CW) 
Premiered with 1.1 million viewers. Last week, 846,000 viewers. The 
CW took a risk by turning over its Sunday nights to Media Rights 
Capital, which produced three new series. Unfortunately, the 
experiment failed, and the shows tanked across the board. Production 
was "temporarily" halted on Valentine after finishing eight episodes. 
Media Rights Capital promises to continue production and finish its 
13-episode order, but considering it can't even crack a mill

gt; io n viewers, the Greek Gods themselves would be challenged to save 
this one. Grade: F 
> 
> The Ex List (CBS) Premiered with 6.85 million viewers. Last week, 
5.65 million viewers. While Ghost Whisperer has been doing well on 
Fridays, the younger-skewing Ex List has proved a poor companion. CBS 
just pulled the series off the air, with six episodes still in the 
can. A repeat of NCIS will take its place. No word from CBS whether 
the series will be canceled or tried out in another timeslot. Grade: 
F 
> 
> That's not all folks! There are more new series headed our way in 
the coming months, including the syndicated Legend of the Seeker, 
which premieres this Saturday, and Joss Whedon's highly anticipated 
Dollhouse, set for Fox early next year. Stay tuned! --Kathie 
Huddleston 
> 
> http://www.scifi. com/sc
ifiwire/ index.php? ca tegory= 0&id=61810
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