That is why I want him to see it.  Griping is part of the tradition and fun
of the reboot remake experience and I want to see you snark through Star
trek like you do so well Martin  :)

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of sincere1906
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:41 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

ROTFL. Man just the image of Picard in that scene has me laughing. But
recall that Picard's Ahab-like obstinance had to be tempered by Alfree
Woodard... "You broke your little ships." See the movie, please, if only so
I can find a like-minded person who likes Trek's vision and principles to
gripe and complain with... :)

Sin/Black Galactus

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@...>
wrote:
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> Your right to believe and enjoy. Mine not to. Thank you for caring enough
to try to steer me your way, but I feel that I've got to make a stand here.
To quote Picard in "First Contact", "This far and no further!"
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 Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
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 Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 11:00:32 -0700 (PDT)
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 From : Bosco Bosco <ironpi...@...>
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 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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> 
Dude
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> This movie is GREAT. Miss it if you must but it's GREAT. Did I mention
it's frakin GREAT. I really think you're cheating yourself by taking a stand
against without having seen it. Seriously.
> 
> God that movie was GREAT.
> 
> Bosco
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:
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> From: Martin Baxter 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:45 PM
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>  Adrianne, I've never thought of Doctor Who as a reboot, merely a restart.
The nature of the show itself allows for far more flexibility in
storytelling. The same can be said for Trek, but there are established
events that formed the show's collective mythos. IMO, those events are being
juggled, solely to make money. Yes, it's the Way of All Things. I don't have
to accept it. 
> 
> I won't. I'll NEVER see this movie, not on cable, not on free TV, not even
if someone were to send it to me, wrapped in C-notes. I'd send it right
back.
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>  Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
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>  Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 11:43:31 -0400
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>  From : Adrianne Brennan 
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>  To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
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> I dunno. I don't see what they're doing as being any different from the
> 
> reboot of Doctor Who, except with more major canonical differences.
> 
> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> 
> http://www.adrianne brennan.com
> 
> Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> 
> http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html
> 
> Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> 
> http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html
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> Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series:
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> http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath
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> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote:
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> > In a message dated 5/10/09 4:24:35 AM, sincere1906@ gmail.com writes:
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> > My great fear is that this spawns a whole Trek series that won't have
some
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> > universal appeal because they adhere to any dynamic set of principles,
but a
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> > Trek universe where things get blow'd up real good and the movie crowd
can
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> > clap on cue. Too early to make that judgment before the next film, so
we'll
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> > just have to wait and see...
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> > MHO
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> > Sin/Black Galactus
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> > I was about to stay silent on this but the paragraph above prompted me
to
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> > put my .02 cents in.
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> > What Sin/Black Galactus stated is something I call "The Galactica
> 
> > Syndrome". That is you got a show based on a earlier project that while
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> > forming it's own audiance base is shunned by most-if not all of the
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> > orignials show's base. Shows like this usually don't have that much of a
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> > long shelf-life being period 'flashes in the pan".
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> > Pre-new movie Star Trek (OST, ST:NG, ST:DS9, ST:V) while set either/or
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> > different time periods, situtations, characters, etc. could have went
this
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> > way. Their was something about those shows (and the movies based on
them)
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> > that fans from other shows could like and this brought in many fans from
> 
> > those shows. Which in turn made the great. However the flipside of this
is
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> > that it produces 'lazy' exicution, that eventually results in bad
products
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> > which angers and drives of the fans of those shows. Forcing efforts to
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> > bring new life into those shows. Sometimes successful, sometimes not. It
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> > depends on how much cannon they 'break' when doing it to make the show
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> > new/hip to make it acceptable to both new/old fans.
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> > This, IMO is why Enterprise was not well recieved by the pre-new movie
Star
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> > Trek community. It broke too much cannon, and many of the stories
weren't
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> > that good. Which is also why it didn't get that many new fans (IMO if it
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> > wasn't for the ST name Enterprise would have been canciled in it's first
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> > season).
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> > while the new Battlestar Galactica was a somewhat hit. It was not so by
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> > many fans of the old series who concider it broke too much cannon (and
the
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> > fact it's creators also had 'lazy exicution' sydrome judging from it's
later
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> > episodes) and this IMO the show will probally fade over time. And in my
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> > opinion I see the new Star Trek movie and it's alternate timeline will
while
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> > finding intial popular support will eventually go the way of new BG as
it's
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> > new fans will stick to this movie. While fans of pre-new movie ST will
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> > eventually ignore it and continue on, asking for more stuff in the
pre-new
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> > movie ST background.
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> > But hey it's only my opinon.
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> > -GTW
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