Ah. Too busy staring at Seven's Two Little Friends...
---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 01:01:20 -0400 From : <wlro...@aol.com> To : <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> Maybe they were too busy watching to see if Janeway and Seven was going to break it again. --Lavender -------------------------------------------------- From: "sincere1906" Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:36 AM To: Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > Okay. Getting real Trek geek here... > > SPOILERS! > > SPOILERS! > > SPOILSRS! > > > Where are the Temporal Authorities? In a Deep Space 9 episode, we got to > see guys from the future who monitor time. I figure they must be able to > remain unaltered outside the timeline. Shouldn't some alarm (or however > they're notified) have gone off somewhere as soon as that giant Romulan > ship showed up and started rippling through the time line? > > Jes thinkin aloud... > > Sin > > > -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sincere1906" wrote: >> >> Okay it's 4am, I saw the new Trek movie about 8 hours ago and am just >> getting in after a night of debauchery. So I might be writing this on a >> Red Stripe buzz, but here goes... >> >> S P O I L E R S ! ! ! >> >> I liked the movie. As a movie, it was good. The plot was decent. There >> was well-paced excitement, humor, etc. The cast was relatable. I thought >> everyone did a great job playing their roles--even down to Chekhov. So as >> a movie, good. I give it 3 stars out of four. >> >> The larger question, what I suppose matters the most on a group like >> this, is was it good Trek? >> >> On this, I'm truly torn. >> >> First off, I knew they said get ready to forget everything you know about >> Trek, but damn...I didn't know they were this serious! Thanks to that >> Romulan ship coming through a black hole and killing Kirk's father, the >> timeline that we know from that point on has been severed. The Butterfly >> effect has created a host of new phenomenon--right down to a love affar >> between Uhuru and Spock--which never seemed to exist before. This was a >> bold and daring move. The writers of this new Trek world have an entire >> alternate reality on their hands. They can do anything. And with Vulcans >> reduced to a virtual minor colony the entire course of the Federation >> could be altered, not to mention the balance of power in the Alpha >> Quadrant. They should call this "Ultimate Star Trek!" There's a sense of >> loss here knowing that the Trek reality that I've long called home no >> longer exists (or exists in some other timeline). For all we know future >> figures like Picard might never have been born. For the first time I can >> recall, we have a Trek spin off that cannot fit into the larger Trek >> universe. That will take some getting used to. >> >> Second, where a part of me is concerned, is I'm trying to figure out >> where this new story fits into Roddenberry's vision. Even with all its >> faults, the original Trek world was one that took radical positions--a >> Russian main character, a black main character, etc. I don't see this >> Trek taking any such bold moves. I don't see a vision here, even as we >> stand in the midst of a time almost as socially and politically >> challenging as the 1960s. Nothing illustrated this more than seeing >> product placement ads for Nokia, Budweiser and Jack Daniels. Pardon me >> for using a cross-sci-fi swear word, but "what the frack!?!" Earth >> endures eugenics wars, a nuclear holocaust, a post-atomic court of >> horrors, new regional powers (the Northern Alliance, etc), and somehow >> Nokia emerges unscathed!?!? The Trek world I knew seemed to always posit >> that humanity had come to the verge of destroying itself, and upon First >> Contact, from the ashes of the old world they built a new >> one--eliminating poverty, war, hunger, disease and systems that move far >> beyond capitalism and socialism. In this new Trek reality, I wouldn't be >> surprised if Kirk had a credit card! Trek has often been faulted at being >> overly utopian in the past, which I agreed could obscure reality. But >> this Trek has characters so much like us, I don't understand how they can >> possibly be enlightened. Normally Trek folks look back on our era the way >> we would at someone stepped out of the 12th century. Can't see them >> however debating the philosophical merits of the prime directive. >> >> My great fear is that this spawns a whole Trek series that won't have >> some universal appeal because they adhere to any dynamic set of >> principles, but a Trek universe where things get blow'd up real good and >> the movie crowd can clap on cue. Too early to make that judgment before >> the next film, so we'll just have to wait and see... >> >> MHO >> >> Sin/Black Galactus >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > > Groups Links > > > > People may lie, but the evidence rarely does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
