WHAT?????????? You would deny yourself the yummy, yummy drugs?
Martin (has "Mars Attacks" on DVD somewhere) ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here Date : Fri, 15 May 2009 18:09:29 -0400 From : "Reece Jennings" <mcjennings...@yahoo.com> To : <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> You didn't salute??? :o) Sometimes I'm really glad the science is glossed over for the emotional effects of the movie. This was one of those times. I liked that Will Smith and Vivica Fox had such a love story. I enjoyed the lightness made of it, the hugeness of the enemies, and the usage of the cliche'd lines and moves...like dragging the 'alien' into camp! And as for communicating with the 'aliens'...I thought the aliens did a pretty good job of communicating with us when they started shooting the crap out of us. It was funny along the lines of "Mars Attacks". That was a hoot! Yes...I'm off my medication... _____ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:41 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here I wanted to salute during the speech in independence day. :) I totally agree about the lazy writing. Independence day was the first movie that I found myself talking out loud during the movie for the same reason that you are stating. Scientists are making a lot of assumptions based on some of the discoveries here. There's no way that we will be able to figure out basic communication with an alien species. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Keith Johnson comcast.net> wrote: I don't know the locales, but even then it seems unlikely he'd find one woman and child amidst all that wreckage. Especially since she had to deviate from the route and hide in that little cubbyhole. Didn't he locate her at night, to boot? As for the computer virus, that's just lazy writing. Whether they use binary or not as the base language isn't the issue. It's whether you believe that even a genius computer hack could write a virus small enough to fit on a floppy that could break the firewalls, anti-virus scans, pop up blockers, malware/adware detectors, quarantine protections, and heuristics programs (a feature of anti-virus software that lets the computer look for patterns in behaviour of new code, and decide that even if it's not *sure* the code is dangerous, its characteristics make it *likely* it is). This is especially difficult to believe since their code would be so foreign, no way humans could understand it enough to do that in a few days or even weeks' time. And difficult to believe since the aliens have a structure where all ships are tied to the functionality of the mothership--a convenient and irritating Achille's Heel--that the mothership's computers could be that vulnerable. There'd be safeguards on top of safeguards, including a system to simply reject and quarantine any code coming in from outside normal channels. Incidentally, I had a similar problem in The Next Generation when Data working with Picard put the Borg to "sleep" and caused the Cube to explode. I was yelling at the screen "Come on! No way a race that sophisticated, built around computerized systems that add the power of all into a big One, would be fooled like that!" Low level program or not, there' be major checks and balances in every level of the IT infrastructure, from base code to operating systems to even mechanical safeguards. There'd be systems all along the way that'd say "Hey, we're in the middle of an Assimilation, everyone wake up!", or "Hey, power levels are climbing dangerously high! Break the circuit and wake up!" I know, I know, nitpicking "Independence Day" to death. But like I said for me it wasn't popcorn-campy enough to put my brain on hold and have fun, so the brain just kept finding the flaws. But worst of all, loyal American that I am, I was most undone by the "rah-rah! USA! USA!" nature of Pullman's speech, and the world's militaries literally standing around waiting for the US to come up with a battle plan! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Augustus Augustus" yahoo.com> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:46:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here Mr. Worf, a couple of the questions i can answer. first - he did not find his girlfriend in LA, he found her at MCAS Yuma (remember, he told her 2 pack a bag and 4 her and her son 2 come down 2 the base...................so when him and connick flew over LA, connick said "man, i'm sure she made it out". so it makes sense that he would go 2 Yuma. second - the computers, i do not have a clue! we are always told that binary is the universal math. what if that is not the case? --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Mr. Worf gmail.com> wrote: From: Mr. Worf gmail.com> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 4:04 PM Yea, Independence day bugged the crap out of me too. I was thinking ok, where are the other planes and ground troops? How the hell could he find his girlfriend amongst all of the ruins of LA on a tank of gas in a helicopter? How the hell did the alien computers work like ours? Someone call JJ Abrams its time for a remake! :) On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Keith Johnson > wrote: Call everyone I know...turn on the TV and radio to get news updates from both at once... take my laptop outside so I could watch the ship while surfing the Net for more news...check my emergency kit and plans (flashlight, batteries, snacks, bottled water, gas in car, tire pressure, map, escape route, clothes, etc.) in case things go bad, and we lose power as the invasion starts and I need to make a getaway to the mountains... get my Bible, pray to God all will be okay, and start pondering the impact on religious thought and culture as other beings with souls are finally discovered.. . Incidentally, good question. One of my pet peeves with the movie "Independence Day"--which is not a fav of mine, actually--is Will Smith's reaction when the aliens appeared. While his girlfriend and everyone in his neighborhood was outside gawking at the ships, Smith is shown calmly shaving, as if nothing's all that amiss. I remember him telling Vivica Fox something like "They didn't come billions of light years just to kill us". I remember thinking it was such a phoney and obvious scene, in order to show just how cool this soon-to-be hero was. The unflappable military stud not even phased by one of the greatest events in human history. But it range false to me... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:18:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here Early Sunday morning the sun is shining, birds chirping. You get out of bed, open the curtains and look out the window. Out over the horizon is a large floating ship about 2/3rds the size of the horizon. They are here. It finally happened. What would you do? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
