Keith,
when the rumors first hit about TNG, i just knew that they were going 2 have a
Deltan. it would have been perfect 4 Picard and Riker on the Enterprise.
especially Riker. having 2 deal with a beautiful woman who was celibate. or
even a man who was Deltan and then having Troi, Beverly and in the beginning
Tasha 2 deal with him. that would have been marvelous!
Fate.
--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote:
From: Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 7:02 PM
In the Star Trek movie, the lady wasn't a Betazoid, but a "Deltan". Her
race wasn't telepathic, but emitted a high level of pheremones that drove human
males crazy. Hence, she had a vow of celibacy that was actually on record.
As for the habits of Betazoids, I didn't know that. I don't remember them
having open relationships being discussed on the series. The only discussion of
their customs really came in reference to Luwaxanna Troi, and that was always
suspect. Interesting. ...
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From: "Mr. Worf" <HelloMahogany@ gmail.com>
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:41:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
The star trek movie with the bald Betazoid woman. Also it was mentioned
in the dialog on STNG.
Here is a quote from Startrek.com
"Betazoids practice an old style of marriage arrangement called genetic
bonding, wherein children are promised to each other for marriage later
by their parents. On the same note, Betazoids are known for their
ability to love more than one person without losing their ability to
love their mate, nor are they bound by their marriage customs. Because
marriage is a celebration of the act of love to Betazoids, the wedding
ceremony itself is traditionally conducted in the nude."
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net>
wrote:
Betazoids have numerous lovers? When was that stated?
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From: "Mr. Worf" <HelloMahogany@ gmail.com>
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:31:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
I think he hinted at it with Troi (the Beatzoids had numerous lovers) and
Dr. Flox (sp? with numerous wives) from Enterprise.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ lycos.com>
wrote:
Mr Worf, wouldn't surprise me in the least if he actually tried to get an open
relationship of some sort across the boards. But I doubt that NBC would've
aired it, even in the radical 60s.
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Date : Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:39:51 -0700
From : "Mr. Worf" <HelloMahogany@ gmail.com>
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Is that why they did a few episodes around Alzheimer's disease? I think
there were three of them. One with Sarek, one with Troi's mom, and one with
a one time character that was mentally attacking Troi?
Maybe Gene wanted to do an open relationship or 3way? It WAS the 60s! :)
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:
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> Yeah, Roddenberry was dating Nichelle Nichols and Majel Barrett at the same
> time. Indeed, Nichols related that Roddenberry used to take her riding on
> his motorcycle. One day he said, "I need you to meet someone". They drove to
> a house, Gene walks up and knocks on the door, and Majel answers. Gene
> introduces the ladies, and Nichols says she realized at that moment he was
> not only two-timing her, but was going to marry Barrett. (Actually, he may
> have been three-timing her. He had a previous wife of nearly three decades
> whom he divorced sometime during this period, so he may have started affairs
> with Nichols and Barrett while still being married. Not sure).
>
> A sad final chapter in this strange tale. Evidently Roddenberry' s last
> years were marked by increasingly ill health. not sure what he had, but it's
> why he had to relinguish creative control of The Next Generation. At any
> rate, in those final years, Gene had some mental difficulties. At a big
> party given in his honor---a party in which most of the OS Trek alumni and
> showrunners were in attendance-- Gene appears in a highly agitated and
> confused state. In front of all the guests--including his wife
> Majel--Roddenberry walks over to Nichele Nichols and confesses his undying
> love for her. "You're the one I really loved, Nichelle! I should have
> married you, Nichelle!" he exclaimed.
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> Nichols had to keep her composure and tell the crowd that Gene was just ill
> and didn't know what he said.
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> I've read this account more than once. Hope it's not just an urban legend.
> Don't know if it was recorded in Nichols' official autobiography.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Baxter"
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:27:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
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> None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind
> KEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOO OOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of
> her made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry did
> *more* than just "recognize" her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way
> *all* men wish they could've.
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> *Date : *Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:06:29 +0000
> *From : *mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
> *To : *"SciFi2"
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> No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore
> without a remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18
> months in the Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is
> Uhura. Lawd!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "C.W. Badie"
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> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:51:39
> To:
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
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> ....And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the
> chauvinism, but she was gorgeous!
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> --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan wrote:
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> From: Adrianne Brennan
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM
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> I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D
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> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ravenadal wrote:
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> Beware of the "Disposable Negro Effect" which is akin to the "butterfly
> effect." You may think a negro is disposable but then you remove them and
> all heck breaks loose. I mean haven't you seen Douglass Turner Ward's "Day
> of Absence" where all the negroes disappear one day and all the white folks
> don't have a clue as to what to do?
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> I mean take something as innocuous as Lt. Uhura on Star Trek. You would
> think she was a disposable negro, afterall, anybody can answer the phone,
> but it totally ignores the fact that her showing up on the bridge everyday
> in those boots and that mini-skirt made the mens, James T. and the rest of
> dem, happy - heck - eager to come to work. Remove Uhura and it gone get
> snarly, snarky and plum ugly up in there quick and in a hurry.
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> ~rave!
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> --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, George Arterberry wrote:
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> > Please list the greatest disposible Negroes in sci-fi.What is a
> disposible Negro you ask? Well if he or she is removed from the storyline it
> wont change one iota. I'll nominate Anastasia "Dee" Dualla and her totally
> uncalled for suicide in Battlestar Galactica.
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> > I mean we needed at least some sisters in modern-day Tanzinia to help
> repopulate the human race.
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> > There are so many others to list,where do i start?????
> >
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