Oh!  That is wicked good!

~rave!

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> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:53:44 -0700
> Subject: [scifinoir2] TV Shows We Wish Would Swap Writing Staffs
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> Shows We Wish Would Swap Writing Staffs
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> By Charlie Jane
> Anders, 5:07
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> We don't just love television for the special effects or crackerjack acting,
> but for the writing. That's where our heroes get their cool lines and defining
> moments. And sometimes we wonder: what'd happen if our fave shows swapped
> writing staffs?
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> That's right — it's just like wife swappers, except it's writer
> swappers! So put the keys to the writers' room in a bowl, and let's get
> swinging...
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> Lost and Supernatural
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> In some ways these shows are opposites, even though they have so much in
> common — they both have long, pull-your-hair-out plots and complex
> characters who stray to the dark side regularly.
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> But Supernatural keeps it lean and mean — you pretty much
> just have the Winchester brothers, and one to four supporting castmembers at
> any given time. And Supernatural's big mysteries are relatively few,
> and relatively straightforward: What did the yellow-eyed demon want with baby
> Sam? What does Ruby want with grown-up Sam? Why did the angels pull Dean out 
> of
> Hell? And we get answers to those questions on a regular basis. What's complex
> on Supernatural is the tangled theology of the Angel/Demon war. And
> few relationships on television are as barbed and complex as the troubled love
> between the two brothers.
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> Lost, meanwhile, thrives on complexity — there are easily two
> dozen characters you're supposed to be keeping track of at any given moment,
> and oftentimes, they all seem to be equally important. The show's creators 
> have
> already told viewers not to expect answers to all the show's mysteries —
> You have to piece things together on your own, or just accept that some things
> are not knowable. Meanwhile, the show gives us characters whose family
> relationships are mostly dismal (except Hurley's, oddly) and whose
> relationships with each other are frequently defined somewhat 
> straightforwardly
> by rivalry, love triangles, or unrequited love.
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> So we'd love to see the writers change places for a bit — the Supernatural
> writers could bring a bit of immediacy to Lost's slow-boiling
> storylines, and also show us a bit more of how all these people stuck on an
> island together have become each other's family, and have grown to love each
> other even as they piss each other off.
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> And the Lost writers could give us a world of spirits and monsters
> that's foggier, and weirder, than Supernatural has ever quite given
> us. Imagine Supernatural with more weird clues, and more of a sense
> that there's a massive chess game going on in which the Winchester brothers 
> are
> just pawns. It could be quite a ride.
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> Dollhouse and Torchwood
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> These two shows both unkinked our brains, in different ways, last month. We
> finally got to see Dollhouse's unaired season finale, in which some
> brilliant new adaptations to the Dollhouse's business model end up destroying
> civilizaton itself. And Torchwood served up the shocking, twisted
> "Children Of Earth" miniseries, in which we find out just how
> valuable our children really are — and just how dark Captain Jack is
> prepared to get.
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> These shows both operate in murky waters, with heroes who have huge dark
> sides and make difficult (and frequently wrong) choices. They're the dark side
> of escapism, showing how becoming part of a secret world of amazing tech and
> cool fantasies can be dreadful as well as wonderful. But Dollhouse is
> a good deal nastier than Torchwood, giving us a for-profit venture
> that is bent on making people's dreams come true — but only at the
> expense of its "employees"' personhood. Torchwood,
> meanwhile, is about people who actually do try to save the world — but
> often as not, they make things worse.
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> So what would happen if Russell T. Davies and his gang started writing 
> Dollhouse,
> and Joss and friends moved to Cardiff?
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> Well, for starters, Dollhouse would get a lot sexier. The
> relationship between Boyd and Whiskey/Claire Saunders would probably heat up
> quite a bit. (And the already-homoerotic tension between ex-cop Boyd Langton
> and ex-FBI agent Paul Ballard would become way more intense.) But more than
> that, the assignments would get a lot freakier — Just imagine what sort
> of missions Russell T. Davies' gnarled, twisted brain would come up with for
> the mindwiped "dolls" who can be anyone or anything. And if you think
> the Dollhouse is morally grey and disturbing now, wait until RTD wrote a few
> scripts. And what could RTD would do with Adelle DeWitt, the sly, wicked,
> frosty madam of the Dollhouse's empty-headed bordello?
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> As for Torchwood — sure, "Children Of Earth" was
> one of the best pieces of television we've seen in recent years. But just
> imagine Torchwood done in the style of Angel or Buffy,
> with more weird humor, more out-and-out struggle against the forces of evil,
> and more identity crisis for our heroes. Torchwood could use some more
> memorable villains, like the Mayor of Sunnydale or Glory. And Captain Jack 
> needs
> to have a few episodes of spouting Whedonesque dialogue as he sluts around
> Cardiff and hits on every adult sentient being he meets. And even though 
> Torchwood
> took a major leap into darkness this last time around, the show could always 
> go
> darker and dirtier — especially now that the Hub and the team have both
> been wrecked. We can just see the story of Torchwood crawling out of the ashes
> and trying to figure out their role now, as told by Joss Whedon and co.? Where
> do they go from here?
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> House and Fringe
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> Two shows about unconventional teams who deal with weird science stuff
> — even as the most brilliant, curmudgeonly member of the team skirts the
> edge of insanity. Can't you just imagine J.J. Abrams and the rest of the 
> Fringe
> team getting their claws into House's drug-addled, dysfunctional life, while
> the House gang goes full-throttle on Walter and the Fringe Division?
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> Of course, House has been on the air longer and has had more time
> to delve into the neuroses and relationships of its main characters. But also,
> one major difference between the shows is that House has romance and sexual
> intrigue — there's Foreteen, of course, plus the ongoing will-they,
> won't-they with House and Cuddy.
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> What the Fringe writers could bring to House: more weird
> science, and less weird psychology — in the most recent season, we've
> spent more more time figuring out the mysteries of House's mind than we have
> tackling medical mysteries, like weird parasites or insect-bites in unlikely
> spots that cause mysterious paralysis. Sure, House has been on for
> longer and we've been delving into the character more deeply, but the Fringe
> writers could pump up the show's weirdness levels satisfyingly.
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> Meanwhile, Fringe could use the opposite — we could use a lot
> more speculation about the psychology of its characters. Sure, we get hints
> about the weird experiments that characters like Olivia underwent as kids. But
> that's not psychology, it's plot development. Fringe could stand to delve a 
> bit
> more into what makes its characters tick.
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> And think about it — this is the right time for the two shows to swap
> writing staffs, too — House is going into a mental institution (where we
> first met Walter Bishop) and Walter is going to become a lot more independent
> and autonomous, letting him become more like House.
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> True Blood and
> Heroes
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> What would happen if these two soap operas traded off writing staffs?
> Bringing Alan Ball and his gang to the perennially conflicted mutants might do
> them the world of good — and maybe Heroes' writers would get
> their groove back if they got to write for Lafayette, Eric and the rest.
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> It's weird to think that both Heroes and True Blood are
> soap operas, but they kind of are — the main difference is, True
> Blood is a lot stickier (both in the sense that people obsess a lot more
> about True Blood's characters, and in the sense that there are weird
> fluids everywhere), while Heroes often has much higher stakes and more
> of a comic-book, action-adventure feel.
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> So it's easy to think of ways that the True Blood team could
> revitalize Heroes. As Lauren points out, "Sylar would actually
> eat brains." The weird murder-flirtation between Sylar and Claire would
> get a lot deeper, and all of the show's relationships would suddenly be much
> more gothic and byzantine.
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> The dark, secret world of the Company, with its endless family drama going
> back decades, would gain a whole new layer of murkiness and detail, much like
> all the stuff we're learning about vampire society on True Blood. We'd
> get a lot more fun, quirky world-building moments on Heroes. And can
> you picture Alan Ball writing HRG, the tormented-but-suave-but-dorky family
> man? He would suddenly have a lot more layers. And he'd be naked.
> 
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> But the much-maligned Heroes team could also bring some fun to True
> Blood. One of the things Heroes does really well is come up with
> out-of-left-field superpowers and then imagine how they would really work, and
> how they'd affect your life, in reality. If the Heroes writers ran True Blood,
> Jason would probably get powers similar to Sookies — except, of course,
> he would see the future. You might see a bit more of how the strange mixture 
> of
> powers in Bon Temps actually messes with people's lives. Plus maybe the Heroes
> writers could cut loose and write the kind of beyond-dysfunctional, messed-up
> characters that they don't get to create that often. And it would be
> fascinating to see Heroes deal with the added theme of religion that
> crops up a lot in True Blood.
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> 
> Breaking Bad and
> Eureka
> 
> These are both shows about science, and about the quirky people who make a
> living off science. In AMC's critically acclaimed Breaking Bad, we
> follow Walter White, a high school chemistry teacher who's got a pregnant wife
> and a son with cerebral palsy, and then he finds out he's got terminal lung
> cancer. His insurance won't pay for the treatments, so he decides to start
> making and selling methamphetamine to secure his family's future. Meanwhile, 
> in
> Eureka, there's a whole town full of science geniuses who create
> oddball projects for fun and profit, with often disastrous (but never
> horrifying) results.
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> So they're both about people using science to get ahead, but Breaking
> Bad is about the dark, nasty side of science, while Eureka is
> happy and easy-going. Everybody's rich, or at least comfortable, in Eureka,
> while Walter White is barely getting by and needs to resort to drug-dealing to
> save his family from ruin. (Walter's drug-dealer name is
> "Heisenberg," and he uses mercury fulminate, an explosive, as a
> weapon. He also uses his chemistry-teacher knowledge to quadruple his meth
> production.)
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> So what would the writers of Eureka bring to Breaking Bad?
> Probably a lot more science shout-outs. In addition to using Heisenberg as his
> drug-dealer name, Walt would probably start finding himself experiencing 
> things
> that are right out of classic science fiction movies. And the science would 
> get
> a lot odder, with Walt possibly coming up with wild new additives to lace his
> meth with — meth that makes you start aging backwards? Maybe Walt would
> come up with some zanier ways of dealing with the drug lords he runs up
> against, like catching them in zero-gravity fields or something?
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> 
> As for Eureka, the Breaking Bad writers might delve a little
> bit more into the underside of the little town of geniuses. Exactly how does
> their relationship with the Defense Dept. work? And what happens when some of
> their more potent inventions really do fall into drastically wrong hands?
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> Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Venture Bros.
> 
> These are two of the most vivid and fascinating animated shows on TV right
> now — so what would happen if you turned the Lucasfilm writers loose on
> the Venture Bros., and let the Venture staff have a crack at the Clone
> Wars?
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> The main difference between these shows, says Graeme, is that the Venture
> Bros. writers are deeply bitter whereas the Clone Wars' writers are,
> at their heart, very sincere.
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> So maybe if the Venture Bros. writers got to take a turn writing
> the Clone Wars, you'd immediately have more weird pop-culture humor.
> But you'd also get more investigation into the bitterness that's just under 
> the
> surface of the Star Wars universe — the fact that Anakin is a
> jerk who's destined to become the scourge of the galaxy. Plus the fact that 
> the
> clone army is made up of helpless slaves. All of the characters in Clone
> Wars would become a lot more neurotic, and the clones would become like
> the Venture Bros.' henchmen. Inevitably, the show would start pointing to more
> of the darkness in its premise, but also poking fun at it — and it might
> become like a better written version of Robot Chicken Star Wars along the way.
> Plus, it would be fantastic to see what the Venture Bros. scribes
> would do with Anakin.
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> Meanwhile, if the Clone Wars staff came over to Venture Bros., that
> show would become much more of a straightforward action-adventure show —
> it might become a bit like Johnny Quest, even. But we'd also suddenly
> see a lot more weird politics, and the show would start showing us different
> factions scheming and intriguing against each other. There might be less
> resolution in each episode — which is saying something, considering how
> little resolution Venture Bros. already gives us. And a revamped Venture
> Bros. would start giving us morals at the end of each episode, like
> "Remember, Brock, Sometimes violence ISN'T the answer."
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> Additional reporting by Graeme McMillan, Lauren Davis, Meredith Woerner
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