Not to mention there has been significant size fudging over the years.  
Allegedly Marilyn Monroe was a size 12 in the late fifties and sixties but when 
they held up the iconic dress she wore in "The Seven-Year Itch" in front of a 
"normal" sized woman it appeared Miss Monroe was actually what would be 
considered a size 6 today.

For instance, Nancy Reagan is a actual size zero and she looks like Skeletor.

~ (no)rave!

--- In [email protected], Adrianne Brennan <adrianne.bren...@...> 
wrote:
>
> Okay, I'm going to give some stats here for a sake of comparison. At 5'4" at
> 120 lbs, I wear a size 2--size 0 in some clothing if the hips run loose
> because my waist is significantly smaller than my hips. I am also rather
> small-boned.
> For someone at 5'10" to be "too fat" at 120 is fucking insane. I actually
> will deliberately gain weight if I go below 120 because at that point I
> start to look unhealthy. At my height, 5 lbs goes a LONG way.
> 
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> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I don't know what's more disturbing: that they think this model in her
> > current true form is overweight, or that anyone in any country in the world
> > thought that doctored photo of her was either realistic or attractive.  I
> > have tried over and over to understand the American obsession with thin
> > models and actresses. My wife always explains to me that clothing looks
> > better when hung on a thin frame, since designers feel a  woman's curves
> > detract from the dress, and a thin woman's body doesn't do that. (she
> > doesn't agree with the philosophy, but understands it). Assuming I bought
> > that--I don't--why then do even actresses, who ostensibly aren't modeling
> > clothing, get told to lose weight? Why are so many makeup models thin when
> > all we should be looking at are their faces (the Queen Latifah's of the
> > world notwithstanding)
> >
> > As a black man over 40, raised to think a good body was represented by the
> > likes of Nichele Nichols, Chaka Khan, Pam Grier,  Sophia Loren, or Racquel
> > Welch,  i guess I'll never understand how "voluptuous" can either be a dirty
> > word, or applied to someone as relatively slim as Cindy Crawford or Claudia
> > Schiffer.  I do know it must be crazy to be a woman trying to survive in the
> > fashion or movie industries as long as this skewed view of beauty persists.
> > No wonder so many models are anorexic and addicted to amphetamines!
> >
> > Remember back when TV Guide grafted Oprah Winfrey's head onto Ann
> > Margaret's body? Man, do we ever see anyone as they really are anymore?
> >
> > **************************************
> >
> > http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/was-the-photoshopped-ralph-lauren-model-fired-for-being-overweight-525248/
> >
> >  Was the photoshopped Ralph Lauren model fired for being overweight?
> >  [image: photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com]
> >
> > photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com
> > Last week Ralph Lauren came under fire for (what looked to be) an
> > extremely altered photo of a 
> > model<http://shine.yahoo.com/event/fallbeauty/image-of-ultra-thin-ralph-lauren-model-sparks-outrage-521480/>in
> >  one of its ads. Bloggers at the website BoingBoing.net posted the image
> > online, and lawyers for Ralph Lauren attempted to sue them for copyright
> > infringement. Unfortunately for Ralph Lauren, this only furthered public
> > interest and outrage over the dangerously thin looking model and,
> > eventually, the clothing company released this apology:
> >
> > "For over 42 years we have built a brand based on quality and integrity.
> > After further investigation, we have learned that we are responsible for the
> > poor imaging and retouching that resulted in a very distorted image of a
> > woman's body. We have addressed the problem and going forward will take
> > every precaution to ensure that the caliber of our artwork represents our
> > brand appropriately."
> >
> > Unfortunately,"addressing the problem" may have included firing the model,
> > 23-year-old Filippa Hamilton. She is 5'10" and weighs 120 pounds--clearly
> > more full-bodied than the photoshopped girl we see in the advertisement.
> > Though Hamilton has modeled for Ralph Lauren since she was 15, the company
> > let her go "as a result of her inability to meet the obligations under her
> > contract with us." But the story gets worse: Hamilton says she was let go
> > because she'd become too fat to model for them. "They fired me because they
> > said I was overweight and I couldn't fit in their clothes anymore," she
> > explained. "I was shocked to see that super skinny girl with my face...It's
> > very sad, I think, that Ralph Lauren could do something like that."
> >
> > [image: Filippa Hamilton in a past Ralph Lauren ad]
> >
> > Filippa Hamilton in a past Ralph Lauren ad
> > Most of us know that a tall, young woman who weighs 120 pounds is not
> > overweight. But Hamilton claims Ralph Lauren was dissatisfied with her body,
> > and therefore fired her six months ago. However, the company continued to
> > use her image, whittling down her arms, waist, thighs, and possibly several
> > other body parts in the above ad. If they were so unhappy with how she
> > looked, why not get another model for the campaign? Why use the photos and
> > alter and distort them?
> >
> > Today, Ralph Lauren himself is distancing himself from the ad, claiming,
> > "The image in question was mistakenly released and used in a department
> > store in Japan and was not the approved image which ran in the U.S." So
> > we're confused. They say the photoshopping was an error, that Hamilton is
> > "beautiful and healthy," yet they allegedly fired her for her size? With all
> > these apologies and statements it sounds like the brand still has yet to
> > accept responsibility for their actions.
> >
> > [image: Hamilton in Italian Elle]
> >
> > Hamilton in Italian Elle
> > [image: Hamilton in French Vogue]
> >
> > Hamilton in French Vogue
> > When I searched for more images of Filippa Hamilton, I instantly remembered
> > her—she was the face of Ralph Lauren's fragrance, Romance, has been featured
> > on the cover of international editions of Vogue and Elle, and has appeared
> > in many ads. She's a gorgeous woman. "I think they [Ralph Lauren] owe
> > American women an apology, a big apology," says Hamilton. "I'm very proud of
> > what I look like, and I think a role model should look healthy."
> >
> > The truth is, models get fired or overlooked all the time for being what
> > the industry considers overweight, we just rarely see or hear about it.
> > Eating disorders are not only common among models, but they're also common
> > among the women and young girls who emulate them. We're happy to see that
> > Hamilton has come forward, and wish more models and celebrities would do the
> > same. It's awesome and empowering when stars admit they've been photoshopped
> > for an ad or movie poster and say how dissatisfied they are about it. With
> > foreign countries banning underweight models from their fashion weeks, and
> > the increasing presence of "plus size" models in women's magazines, we wish
> > the unhealthy representation and falsified depiction of models—and
> > women—would come to an end entirely. Do you think the day will ever come?
> > Sources: 
> > [NYDN<http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/fashion/2009/10/14/2009-10-14_model_fired_for_being_too_fat.html>]
> > [Extra<http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2009/10/blog_and_ralph_lauren_fight_over_skinny_model_ad.php>]
> > [Hulu<http://www.hulu.com/watch/102044/nbc-today-show-model-i-was-fired-for-being-%E2%80%98too-large%E2%80%99#s-p3-sr-i0>]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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