Unfortunately it's a pretty common scifi trope. Maybe a Yu Law existing was like one the fixed points in time in the Doctor Whoverse.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> wrote: > > I agree. That is kind of what I was thinking about when I replied. The > existence of life on this planet, and how humans evolved, etc. all > contributed to you being here right now. Not to mention the random events > that may have happened in your life to make you who you are. > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Omari Confer <clockwork...@...>wrote: > > > You all assume that there would be an alternate you. The percentages of > > genetic material traded during conception is a random concept. This supposed > > theme assumes we as persnalities would be intact. We assume too much I > > think... > > > > c w m > > ------------------------------------- > > Keith Johnson<keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > > > I think the idea is that if you venture too far from the basic pattern--the > > species, etc.--it's no longer "you". After all, the idea is parallel > > universes--alternate realities. So, you could, in some universe, be a gay > > cowboy running dilithium ore on a space barge, but the genetic makeup would > > still be "you". If you were, say, a giant crab creature, it wouldn't be you, > > it'd be someone else. The idea here is that the physical and mental selves > > are just variations on a basic theme. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 11:16:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly! There could be so many other alternate versions. Would they still > > be "you??" What if he went to an alternate universe and he was his > > anti-matter self? Or instead of humans evolving from something similar to > > apes, we were evolved from caterpillars or wolves? > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think every reality's Law was a skilled martial artist, just the > > one with the good cop and the bad cop. The convict Law (the one who was > > killed during a transfer) simply kicked in the bars of a cell because he was > > supper strong. > > As for your alternate selves being radically different from you, that's an > > interesting point. Is part of that alternate reality a being that is similar > > to you, e.g., a carbon-based, bipedal humanoid in all cases? Would a > > mutipedal insectoid with a carapace still be you? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@... > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 9:45:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had problems with the idea of "the One." Every universe won't have the > > same guy with the same martial art skills etc. on that planet. There are so > > many variables that the variables themselves would be infinite as well. For > > example there could be a planet that has a look alike that is stronger and > > faster. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was Seraph the messenger dude who fought Neo "so he could really know him"? > > Not the biggest lost. > > > > "The One" is one of my fav scifi movies of recent years. It's not the > > greatest, by any means, but it's fun, has some good action, and enough > > intelligently written scifi to make it engaging. I have a couple of quibbles > > with it, notably the concept that the number of parallel universes would be > > finite, in the low hundreds. Realistically the multiverse would be infinite, > > so Law would never be able to kill all of his alternate selves. But that's a > > minor point. It's one of those scifi movies you can sit down and watch at > > any time and enjoy it. But, given that the movie was written by Glenn Morgan > > and James Wong--who worked on The X-Files, Millennium, Space: Above and > > Beyond, among others--that's no surprise. > > It's the kind of fun scifi we don't get enough of nowadays. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "B Smith" < daikaij...@... > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 3:41:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Supposedly Will was their Neo and Val Kilmer was Morpheus. Both ended up > > bowing out of the film. > > > > I think Jet Li turned down the role of Seraph to do The One. I also read > > that he was concerned that the amount of time needed to film both sequels > > would cause other conflicts. > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Tracey de Morsella" <tdlists@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hey Rave: > > > > > > > > > > > > Iââ¬â¢m pretty sure Will Smith turned it down, just like Jet Li turned > > > down > > a part in it. They wanted Smith first. At least that is how I remember Smith > > and Jada telling it in interviews. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] > > On Behalf Of Mr. Worf > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:36 AM > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the time the Wochowski brothers were not well known and this was their > > first big film. But I think if things were different it would have been > > incredible. Aliah, Will Smith? Wow. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Augustus Augustus <jazzynupe_007@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but Rave, i thought the Will turned down Matrix because he was about 2 do > > Wild Wild West? at least that is what he said when they interviewed him a > > few years ago. he said that when the brothers tried 2 pitch him the role, he > > was kind of up in the air about it, so he chose 2 do WWW because of the > > director - whom had directed him in MIB - sodeberg (sp) > > > > > > Fate. > > > p.s. on another tip, i would have loved 2 see col. war (my diff'rent > > world reference) as han solo. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/3/09, Kelwyn <ravenadal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Kelwyn <ravenadal@> > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 6:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Serendipity is everything (like the makers of "The Matrix" choosing Keanu > > Reeves over Will Smith) but can you imagine finding out (thirty years after > > the fact) that you ALMOST had the signature role in the most lucrative movie > > franchise of all time? > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > --- In scifino...@yahoogro < > > http://mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com > ups.com , "Mr. Worf" > > <HelloMahogany@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > The movie would have been completely different. I think I would have > > loved > > > > it even more! :) I was really missing people of color in the film, and > > > > having one as a main character would have really made me smile as a > > kid. > > > > Maybe in one of those alternate universes there are all of the movies > > with > > > > alternate castings. > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a bunch of jokes that I could make about the Black Han Solo > > showing > > > > Princess Leia his...ahem "chocolate light saber.." but I won't make > > that > > > > joke... Nope... No way... > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Kelwyn <ravenadal@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This reminds me of an old thread I started on this list many eons ago > > about > > > > > how weren't any cool white actors under 50 because in the past cool > > white > > > > > actors were just stand ins for cool black guys. Disappointingly, > > Hollywood > > > > > seems to be regressing back to the bad old days. > > > > > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > > > > > http://xaiquaox. < http://xaiquaox.notlong.com > notlong.com > > > > > > > > > > Here's Turman in a 2007 interview. > > > > > > > > > > Q. Is it true that you were originally cast as Han Solo in Star Wars? > > > > > > > > > > A. That was in George Lucas' book. Apparently George Lucas had me in > > mind > > > > > for the role, and then thought that there might be too much > > controversy > > > > > between a white Princess Leia and a black Han Solo âââ¬" > > > > > because > > those were the > > > > > times âââ¬" and he didn't want to get into that. At the time, > > > > > I had > > no idea. I > > > > > just went to the audition, did it and got out of there. Years later, > > I read > > > > > his book and said, "What?" 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