i didn't know that... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@hotmail.com> To: "SciFiNoir2" <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2009 3:57:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the Beast’
B siad it to the letter, Keith. A historian stumbled across that about five years ago, and began circulating it openly. It was first met with understandable scepticism, but it's since come into acceptance. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:12:23 +0000 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the Beast’ Supposedly the original number in the early texts may have been 616 but it was changed to the more commonly accepted 666 a century or so later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > How is it 616 instead of 666? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@...> > To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2009 3:43:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the > Beast’ > > > > > > > Meaning that we've been giving kids too-close haircuts for all these > centuries, looking for that cluster of 6s. Someone with a 616 up top got away > clean, and might be in position to end it all for us... > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: keithbjohn...@... > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:26:23 +0000 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the > Beast’ > > > > > > > How's that? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@...> > To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2009 3:52:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the > Beast’ > > > > > I agree with you, Keith. After all, up until a couple of years ago, we were > all certain that the Number of the Beast was 666, only to learn that we'd all > been aiming 50 points too high. Sucker may have gotten past us... > > Martin (wondering if anyone's ever seen the crown of Shotgun Cheney's head) > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: keithbjohn...@... > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:17:03 +0000 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the > Beast’ > > > > > > > Well, I agree it's admirable to stand up for what is right, but using the > Christian Bible as a source can be tricky, and I say that as a Christian. > Like many things, it's open to interpretation. Like I said, she has no real > way of knowing that fingerprinting is the Mark of the Beast, and therefore > her stance is likely wrong. And then the problem is she can expand that > belief to include how she judges and deals with others, resulting in a > worldview and practices based on a misinterpretation of a book that's already > been pieced together, translated, and edited by men who had their own > particular views. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wlro...@... > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, November 6, 2009 3:46:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the > Beast’ > > > > > > > You have to admire a person that stands up for what they believe is right in > the bible. I am kind of torn but respect her beliefs. > --Lavender > > > > > From: Mr. Worf > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:33 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the > Beast’ > > Teacher Claims Fingerprinting Is ‘Mark of the Beast’ > > > > • By David Kravets Email Author > • November 5, 2009 | > • 6:28 pm | > • Categories: Identification , Surveillance , politics > • > picture-38A 22-year veteran kindergarten teacher in the Texas Bible Belt > could lose her job for refusing, on religious grounds, to give fingerprints > under a state law requiring them. > The evangelical Christian, Pam McLaurin, is fighting a looming suspension, > claiming that fingerprinting amounts to the “ Mark of the Beast ,â€� and > hence is a violation of her First Amendment right to practice her religion . > Her case is similar to a lawsuit by a group of Michigan farmers , some of > them Amish, challenging rules requiring the tagging of livestock with RFID > chips, saying the devices are also the devil’s mark. > The latest case is the first in which a teacher is refusing fingerprinting on > religious grounds, the woman’s lawyer said. The U.S. Supreme Court has yet > to decide whether the First Amendment is implicated in fingerprinting, > especially at a time when states, local governments and civic organizations > are increasingly making them mandatory for anyone wanting to drive a car or > coach a youth basketball team. > McLaurin’s lawsuit against the Texas Education Agency cites various > passages of Revelation , the final book of The Bible : > > > He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to > receive a mark on their right hand and on their foreheads, and that no one > may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the > number of his name.… Then a third angel followed them saying with a loud > voice â€" if anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on > his forehead or on his hand he himself shall also drink of the wine of the > wrath of God.… He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the > presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. > Her attorney, Scott Skelton, said his client believes that the computerized > fingerprinting, in which her fingerprints will be stored in a database, is > the mark addressed in Revelation . The teacher does not believe that it is > merely coincidence that Revelation says only those with the ‘mark on his > forehead or on his hand’ will be able to buy or sell, since only those > teachers who comply with fingerprinting requirements will keep their jobs, he > said. > “This law prohibits the free exercise of her religion,â€� Skelton said in a > telephone interview. > The Big Sandy Independent School District, where the woman teaches, is > located about 100 miles northeast of Houston. Wayne Haglund, the school > district’s lawyer, described McLaurin is a “valued member of the faculty > and one of the best teachers we have.â€� > “The school district’s position is fully supportive of Mrs. McLaurin,â€� > Haglund continued in a telephone interview. “We’re caught in the > crossfire. We believe her religious beliefs are sincerely held.â€� > Haglund said the Texas Education Agency informed him it would deactivate her > teacher certification if she does not comply. She has until Nov. 7, Skelton > said. > Texas lawmakers approved the fingerprinting measure in 2007 in a bid, Skelton > said, “to catch somebody with a criminal background or a history of preying > on children.â€� > “She’s willing to undergo a background check,â€� Skelton said, “just > not fingerprinting.â€� > > > -- > Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > > > > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. > > > > > > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.