I didn't like Monster's Ball for lots of reasons. As a black man, i had no desire to see a movie in which one black man is on death row, a young black boy is verbally abused and encounters major horrors, and white bigots get to have sex with black women. I felt the sex scene with Berry and Thornton--which she found her courage to do by exposing her top in "Swordfish"--was unnecessarily graphic, and disturbed me in profound ways: massah getting it on with the slave gal. I frankly felt it was a movie only a white guy could have written. Yeah, i know Lee Daniels was part of the crew, but he's got his own issues, such as his skin color prejudice. I felt Monster's Ball was an update on white male fantasies that have dogged us since slavery: white man eliminates black man, abuses black woman, but somehow there's something "good" to be found in their relationship. Right: give me more movies with black men and black women making it *together* in the world.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Grayson" <grayson.reyesc...@yahoo.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:57:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Swordfish The thing is... I like everybody in this movie. Berry, Cheadle, Jackman, and Travolta who I am loving more and more lately (absolutely loved him in The Taking of Pelham 123 even though the the plot of that movie--remake or not--was as thin as Nick Cage's hairline) plus the very tiny roll for Vinnie Jones who I always like in a fight. But the movie is just... bad. Also is it bad that I haven't seen Monster's Ball and have absolutely no desire to do so. It's on my list of movies to never see. Titanic is also on this list as well as a few other Best Picture nominees/winners. Grayson --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Kelwyn" <ravena...@...> wrote: > > I've seen Swordfish many times. It is not good but it has charms. For me, > Halle's short red dress scene in Hugh Jackman's trailer is better than either > her lingerie scene or her topless scene (if you wanna see Halle's assets, > "Monster's Ball" is a better bet). I like Don Cheadle's dogged detective, I > like the business at the bank, the business with the bus and, IMHO, John > Travolta is always fun to watch. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Grayson Reyes-Cole <grayson.reyescole@> > wrote: > > > > I don't know if this movie has ever been discussed here, but I just watched > > Swordfish all over again for two reasons 1) I was bored and 2) I keep > > thinking if I watch it again I will like it more. Neither reason was worth > > the effort. > > > > I'm just curious, lots of people I know like the movie and not just because > > they got to see Halle Berry's boobies, I'm in the minority because I don't > > (the only scene I like is when Hugh Jackman is explaining how he cracked > > the DoD, Halle Berry negates all of his explanations, then he fesses up to > > just being au naturel and seeing the code in his head). > > > > What do you think? > > > > Grayson Reyes-Cole > > http://www.graysonreyescole.com > > Facebook > > Bright Star > > The Builder > > The Prescription Playboy > > >
