Oh yeah, Cairea the Oldstrong. Well, she was up there with Hulk while his powers were still depleted, but by the time he was back to full strength, he was way stronger. Still, that clash between them, when she channeled the planet's power into that blow against him, was awesome!
I think Storm has been portrayed pretty strongly over the years. She quickly became a leader of the X-Men. Janet Van Dyne--the Wasp--saw a major change in her character. She went from being a silly socialite who was pushed around and ultimately abused by Hank Pym, to a confident woman who became an effective leader of the Avengers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 7:36:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question I always believed that women have been portrayed as underpowered in comics and still are. Even women with equal power end up being portayed as weaker. The only exception is planet Hulk. The Red King's bodyguard is just as powerful as hulk and has fighting skills and psyonic powers. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: My bad, should have said Susan Storm-Richards, Reed Richards' wife, aka The Invisible Woman. Her maiden name is "Storm". As you may know, back when the FF debuted in the '60s, Susan was portrayed as a typical woman of the time, as written by men: a shrinking violet, prone to hysterics, not that bright, leaning on her man for guidance. If you can ever read some of the old comics or see the great 'toon from that time, you'll laugh/groan at how many times she yells "Oh Reed! What do we do?" In the first comics, all Sue could do was turn invisible, which basically made her a weak woman who'd hide in times of danger, then nervously take on the bad guys in that state. Later on she was given a forcefield, but even then she'd basically cower behind it as the bad guys attacked, waiting for Reed's instructions. However, during John Byrnes great 80's run on the FF, Sue was taken over by a malevolent being called Malice, which turned her into an aggressive, hate filled person. The struggle to overcome and defeat the possession resulted in her emerging more confident and independent. She changed her name from the Invisible Girl to the Invisible Woman, and began using her forcefield in more offensive ways rather than just as a shield. There is one comic in which she is taking on Dr. Doom on a ship of his, and snarls "Doom! Tell me what I want to know or I'll tear this place apart". Doom replies, "Indeed, you might be able to do so. I am forced to admit that you, who've I've long regarded as the weakest member of your team, may well be the most powerful". It is now accepted that Susan is indeed the most powerful member of the FF. With her forcefield, she could trap, suffocate, crush, squeeze, decapitate, hurl, eviscerate her fellows pretty quickly. As times have changed and women are treated with more balance, writers have also made Sue an intelligent, confident businesswoman, as well as a capable fighter and team leader in the FF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:33:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Who is Sue Storm? On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: In the original Handbook, it was posited that Magneto might be living proof of a Unified Field Theory, because he could do things that weren't strictly related to manipulation of metal. Mags is one of the Marvel characters whose power i'd like to have were such a thing possible. It's range of uses, offensive/defensive capabilities, and sheer power are impressive. Others whose abilities I covet would include Storm (that lightning/tornadic wind ability is devastating), Graviton (like Magneto, vastly powerful, and able to warp spacetime due to his power), and Sue Storm (that forcefield power has way more potential than shown even to this point) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" < truthseeker...@hotmail.com > To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
