Haaretz is well respected globally and J Street has some serious players behind it. No one would label either conspiracy nuts. At least you gave me the courtesy of a response. I get it you think this is the mad raving of an anti-Semite, so instead of the analytical back and forth we usually have, I get the silence. I have issues with neo-con and Zionist policy and doctrine do scare me, be The Jewish faith and Zionism or the Neo-cons are not one and the same. 20% of Jews in the US have a problems with these policies. Are they conspiracy nuts?
The facts about the budget and the statements are out there available. Interprepation to the degree of power over our policies is subject to interpretation. I admit, reading the officials discussing their power over us in a mainstream publication could be them just puffing out their chests. But the fact that the loans never have to be paid, and that nonpayment is written in the terms is public record. So we do know. I was shocked when I found out. We are going under and yet the money still flows. The media reports on the banks getting the money but not this. What is conjecture, is why we give them so much money and arms year after years without requiring payment. The people I usually have a back and forth exchange with would normally have rebuttal or questions, but on this silence. Unbelievable. I’m really surprised and a little hurt. I have considered you guys family I guess it’s easier to believe I’m a conspiracy nut. I get that. Even if I am wrong about the degree of power that Israel has over the US, leaders in Israel, Europeans, and Asians believe it. And the budgets do not lie. You believe about the power of the lobbyists, but with regard to Israel’s Lobby, openly considered one of the most powerful, it’s about we will never know and all talk ceases It’s only a secret here in the US I guess with views like we will never know the truth, we really never will. Got check the budget. It gets in every year. I hope J Street, a mainstream Jewish Lobby group whom I support, gains some traction so that Americans will start reading the bills and reading press outside the US, and come to better understanding. It’s a long shot, but they are a good group. In the meantime, I feel a little unwelcome , so off I go. I won’t raise this again. I sense it is taboo Thanks Worf for at least not giving me the silent treatment From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:43 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Mossad assassinates leader of the Hamas I take everything with a grain of salt. We will never know the entire truth to any of this stuff. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Tracey de Morsella <tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote: Guess you guys do think I’m paranoid. No response at all. Wow….. I’m just under deadline and don’t have time to research references. However, read http://www.haaretz.com/ for a month. It’s a mainstream national media site in Israel. It covers the news of the US as it applies to Israel. Watch all the serious front page news about US that appears there and see how much that does not appear in our mainstream press. It will shock and likely horrify you. It is fair and balanced coverage overall. They do not editorialize like they do here. Many Americans read it. Read the statements made by its leaders with regards to the US. Sometimes they are shocking in their audacity regarding their influence over our policies. What I said is only a secret here in the US. Not in Europe, Asia or anywhere else. Because they get less filtered news than we receive--- At least when it comes to US Foreign policy. By the way, the name of the Jewish Lobbying group that is starting to oppose our current policy is called J Street. Conspiracy Theorist going back to work now……. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:50 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Mossad assassinates leader of the Hamas You forgot "The Mossad never forgets...." Another quote I heard was "God forgives. The Mossad does not." On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@hotmail.com> wrote: B, there are ten things in this life I'm certain of. One is "Do not f*ck with the Mossad." "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _____ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:47:31 +0000 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Mossad assassinates leader of the Hamas I heard about it earlier this week. It's an incredible story. They all used false European passports to enter Dubai and disappeared after the hit. It's some Sword of Gideon type stuff. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> wrote: > > The national news didn't cover it for some reason. Only BBC and PBS > Newshour. They were probably letting him slip into a sense of false security > then did the hit. > > This incident is a movie in the making. 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