That's chilling enough to have me looking over my shoulder here at home.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Mr Worf, the examples of such I've met have far less facial-recognition
> value. You wouldn't know about them until they were standing right next to
> you. Literally. First one I met was a Dr Bice, back when I was a student at
> Virginia State. He ran the computer department (then called Business
> Information Systems). Looked like anyone's grandfather. If said grandfather
> were ex-OSS, ex-CIA and ex-NSA. The first day he met me (making it a point
> to do so, because he'd seen my grades and wanted to recruit me), he calmly
> told me about two things in my life I'd NEVER told anyone before. I almost
> dropped out that day, so afraid I was.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:43:26 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Cyberwar Hype Intended to Destroy the Open
> Internet
>
>
>  They are scarier than being occupied by any foreign government because
> they are already in our government. Some of them would easily be diagnosed
> as sociopaths.
>
> An example of one would be Newt Gingrich.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Martin Baxter 
> <truthseeker...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> I agree with you entirely, Mr Worf. heck, I believe that I've met pieces of
> it in the past. Uber-scary guys, these were.
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:50:58 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Cyberwar Hype Intended to Destroy the Open
> Internet
>
>
>  I believe that there is still an element within our government that has
> the "old way" of thinking. That the best country we can have is having the
> populace of this nation controlled with an iron fist by any means necessary.
> The easiest way to do it is to trick the population into thinking that we
> need this kind of control over us.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@hotmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> What else, from a career spook?
>
> I'll be dropping my congressman a line about this ASAP. Would hit my
> senator, but he's probably drooling at the thought of this, good little
> neocon he is.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:26:19 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Cyberwar Hype Intended to Destroy the Open Internet
>
>
>
> Cyberwar Hype Intended to Destroy the Open Internet
>
>    - By Ryan Singel <http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/author/ryan_singel/> 
> [image:
>    Email Author] <r...@ryansingel.net>
>    - March 1, 2010  |
>    - 6:56 pm  |
>    - Categories: 
> Cybarmageddon!<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/category/cybarmageddon/>
>    -
>
>  [image: 
> michael_mcconnell]<http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/03/michael_mcconnell.jpg>The
> biggest threat to the open internet is not Chinese government hackers or
> greedy anti-net-neutrality ISPs, it’s Michael McConnell, the former director
> of national intelligence.
> McConnell’s not dangerous because he knows anything about SQL injection
> hacks, but because he knows about social engineering. He’s the nice-seeming
> guy who’s willing and able to use fear-mongering to manipulate the federal
> bureaucracy for his own ends, while coming off like a straight shooter to
> those who are not in the know.
> When he was head of the country’s national intelligence, he scared
> President Bush with visions of 
> e-doom<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/01/feds-must-exami/>,
> prompting the president to sign a comprehensive secret order that unleashed
> tens of billions of dollars into the military’s black budget so they could
> start making firewalls and building malware into military equipment.
> And now McConnell is back in civilian life as a vice president at the
> secretive defense contracting giant Booz Allen 
> Hamilton<http://www.boozallen.com/>.
> He’s out in front of Congress and the media, peddling the same
> Cybaremaggedon! 
> <http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/category/cybarmageddon/>gloom.
> And now he says we need to *re-engineer* the internet.
>
> We need to develop an early-warning system to monitor cyberspace, identify
> intrusions and locate the source of attacks with a trail of evidence that
> can support diplomatic, military and legal options — and we must be able to
> do this in milliseconds. *More specifically, we need to re-engineer the
> Internet to make attribution, geo-location, intelligence analysis and impact
> assessment — who did it, from where, why and what was the result — more
> manageable.* The technologies are already available from public and
> private sources and can be further developed if we have the will to build
> them into our systems and to work with our allies and trading partners so
> they will do the same.
>
> Re-read that sentence. He’s talking about changing the internet to make
> everything anyone does on the net traceable and geo-located so the National
> Security Administration can pinpoint users and their computers for
> retaliation if the U.S. government doesn’t like what’s written in an e-mail,
> what search terms were used, what movies were downloaded. Or the tech could
> be useful if a computer got hijacked without your knowledge and used as part
> of a botnet.
> *The Washington Post* gave McConnell free space to declare that we are losing
> some sort of 
> cyberwar<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/25/AR2010022502493.html?sid=ST2010022502680>.
> He argues that the country needs to get a Cold War strategy, one complete
> with the online equivalent of ICBMs and Eisenhower-era, secret-codenamed
> projects. Google’s allegation that Chinese hackers infiltrated its Gmail
> servers and targeted Chinese dissidents proves the United States is “losing”
> the cyberwar, according to McConnell.
> But that’s not warfare. That’s espionage.
> McConnell’s op-ed then pointed to breathless stories in *The Washington
> Post* and *The Wall Street Journal* about thousands of malware infections
> from the well-known Zeus virus. He intimated that the nation’s citizens and
> corporations were under unstoppable attack by this so-called new breed of
> hacker malware.
> despite the masterful PR about the Zeus infections from security company
> NetWitness (run by a former Bush Administration cyberczar Amit Yoran), the
> world’s largest security companies McAfee and Symantec downplayed the story.
> But the message had already gotten out — the net was under attack.
> Brian Krebs, one of the country’s most respected cybercrime journalists and
> occasional Threat Level contributor, 
> described<http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/zeus-a-virus-known-as-botnet/>that
>  report: “Sadly, this botnet documented by NetWitness is neither unusual
> nor new.”
> Those enamored with the idea of “cyberwar” aren’t dissuaded by
> fact-checking.
> They like to point to Estonia, where a number of the government’s websites
> were rendered temporarily inaccessible by angry Russian citizens. They used
> a crude, remediable denial-of-service attack to temporarily keep users from
> viewing government websites. (This attack is akin to sending an army of
> robots to board a bus, so regular riders can’t get on. A website fixes this
> the same way a bus company would — by keeping the robots off by identifying
> the difference between them and humans.) Some like to say this was an act of
> cyberwar, but if it that was 
> cyberwar<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2007/08/cyber-war-and-e/>,
> it’s pretty clear the net will be just fine.
> In fact, none of these examples demonstrate the existence of a cyberwar,
> let alone that we are losing it.
> But this battle isn’t about truth. It’s about power.
> For years, McConnell has wanted the NSA (the ultra-secretive government spy
> agency responsible for listening in on other countries and for defending *
> classified* government computer systems) to take the lead in guarding all
> government and private networks. Not surprisingly, the contractor he works
> for has massive, secret contracts with the NSA in that very area. In fact,
> the company, owned by the shadowy Carlyle 
> Group<http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aa9gcBDBo03g&refer=home>,
> is reported to pull in $5 billion a year in government contracts, many of
> them Top Secret.
> Now the problem with developing cyberweapons — say a virus, or a massive
> botnet for denial-of-service attacks, is that you need to know where to
> point them. In the Cold War, it wasn’t that hard. In theory, you’d use radar
> to figure out where a nuclear attack was coming from and then you’d shoot
> your missiles in that general direction. But online, it’s extremely
> difficult to tell if an attack traced to a server in China was launched by
> someone Chinese, or whether it was actually a teenager in Iowa who used a
> proxy.
> That’s why McConnell and others want to change the internet. The military
> needs targets.
> But McConnell isn’t the only threat to the open internet.
> Just last week the National Telecommunications and Information
> Administration — the portion of the Commerce Department that has long
> overseen the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers — said it
> was time for it to revoke its hands-off-the-internet policy.
> That’s according to a February 24 
> speech<http://www.ntia.doc.gov/presentations/2010/MediaInstitute_02242010.htm>by
>  Assistant Commerce Secretary Lawrence E. Strickling.
>
> In fact, “leaving the Internet alone” has been the nation’s internet policy
> since the internet was first commercialized in the mid-1990s. The primary
> government imperative then was just to get out of the way to encourage its
> growth. And the policy set forth in the Telecommunications Act of 1996 was:
> “to preserve the vibrant and competitive free market that presently exists
> for the Internet and other interactive computer services, unfettered by
> Federal or State regulation.”
> This was the right policy for the United States in the early stages of the
> Internet, and the right message to send to the rest of the world. But that
> was then and this is now.
>
> Now the NTIA needs to start being active to prevent cyberattacks, privacy
> intrusions and copyright violations, according to Strickland. And since NTIA
> serves as one of the top advisers to the president on the internet, that
> stance should not be underestimated.
> Add to that — a bill looming in the Senate would hand the president
> emergency powers over the 
> internet<http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/83961-forthcoming-cybersecurity-bill-to-give-president-new-powers-in-cyberattack-emergencies>—
>  and you can see where all this is headed. And let the past be our guide.
> Following years of the NSA illegally spying on Americans’ e-mails and phone
> calls as part of a secret anti-terrorism project, Congress voted to legalize
> the program in July 2008. That vote allowed the NSA to legally turn
> America’s portion of the internet into a giant listening device for the
> nation’s intelligence services. The new law also gave legal immunity to the
> telecoms like AT&T that helped the government illegally spy on American’s
> e-mails and internet use. Then-Senator Barack Obama voted for this
> legislation, despite earlier campaign promises to oppose it.
> As anyone slightly versed in the internet knows, the net has flourished
> because no government has control over it.
> But there are creeping signs of danger.
> Where can this lead? Well, consider England, where a new bill targeting
> online file sharing will outlaw open internet connections at 
> cafes<http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/digital-economy-bill-threatens-public-wifi-hotspots-5573>or
>  at home, in a bid to track piracy.
> To be sure, we could see more demands by the government for surveillance
> capabilities and backdoors in routers and operating systems. Already, the
> feds successfully turned the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement
> Act (a law mandating surveillance capabilities in telephone switches) into a
> tool requiring ISPs to build similar government-specified eavesdropping
> capabilities into their networks.
> The NSA dreams of “living in the network,” and that’s what McConnell is
> calling for in his editorial/advertisement for his company. The NSA lost any
> credibility it had when it secretly violated American law and its most
> central tenet: “We don’t spy on Americans.”
> Unfortunately, the private sector is ignoring that tenet and is helping the
> NSA and contractors like Booz Allen Hamilton worm their way into the innards
> of the net. Security companies make no fuss, since a scared populace and
> fear-induced federal spending means big bucks in bloated contracts. Google
> is no help either, recently turning to the NSA for help with its rather
> routine infiltration by hackers.
> Make no mistake, the military industrial complex now has its eye on the
> internet. Generals want to train crack squads of hackers and have wet dreams
> of cyberwarfare. Never shy of extending its power, the military industrial
> complex wants to turn the internet into yet another venue for an arms race.
> And it’s waging a psychological warfare campaign on the American people to
> make that so. The military industrial complex is backed by sensationalism,
> and a gullible and pageview-hungry media. Notable examples include the *New
> York Times*’s John “We Need a New 
> Internet<http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090215/1044233771.shtml>”
> Markoff, *60 Minutes’* “Hackers Took Down Brazilian Power 
> Grid,<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/brazil_blackout/>”
> and the *WSJ*’s Siobhan Gorman, who ominously warned in an a piece lacking
> any verifiable evidence, that Chinese and Russian hackers are already hiding
> inside the U.S. electrical 
> grid<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/04/put-nsa-in-char/>
> .
> Now the question is: Which of these events can be turned into a Gulf of
> Tonkin-like fakery that can create enough fear to let the military and the
> government turn the open internet into a controlled, surveillance-friendly
> net.
> What do they dream of? Think of the internet turning into a tightly
> monitored AOL circa the early ’90s, run by CEO Big Brother and COO Dr.
> Strangelove.
> That’s what McConnell has in mind, and shame on *The Washington Post* and
> the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation 
> Committee<http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5idcpI-eFNCzvuFP57bK1JztcgIbg>for
>  giving McConnell venues to try to make that happen — without
> highlighting that McConnell has a serious financial stake in the outcome of
> this debate.
> Of course, the net has security problems, and there are pirated movies and
> spam and botnets trying to steal credit card information.
> But the online world mimics real life. Just as I know where online to buy a
> replica of a Coach handbag or watch a new release, I know exactly where I
> can go to find the same things in the city I live in. There are cons and
> rip-offs in the real world, just as there are online. I’m more likely to get
> ripped off by a restaurant server copying down the information on my credit
> card than I am having my card stolen and used for fraud while shopping
> online. “Top Secret” information is more likely to end up in the hands of a
> foreign government through an employee-turned-spy than from a hacker.
> But cyber-anything is much scarier than the real world.
> The NSA can help private companies and networks tighten up their security
> systems, as McConnell argues. In fact, they already do, and they should
> continue passing along advice and creating guides to locking down servers
> and releasing their own secure version of Linux. But companies like Google
> and AT&T have no business letting the NSA into their networks or giving the
> NSA information that they won’t share with the American people.
> Security companies have long relied on creating fear in internet users by
> hyping the latest threat, whether that be 
> Conficker<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/04/conficker-war-r/>or the 
> latest PDF flaw. And now they are reaping billions of dollars in
> security contracts from the federal government for their PR efforts. But the
> industry and its most influential voices need to take a hard look at the
> consequences of that strategy and start talking truth to power’s claims that
> we are losing some non-existent cyberwar.
> The internet is a hack that seems forever on the edge of falling apart. For
> awhile, spam looked like it was going to kill e-mail, the net’s first killer
> app. But smart filters have reduced the problem to a minor nuisance as
> anyone with a Gmail account can tell you. That’s how the internet survives.
> The apocalypse looks like it’s coming and it never does, but meanwhile, it
> becomes more and more useful to our everyday lives, spreading innovation,
> weird culture, news, commerce and healthy dissent.
> But one thing it hasn’t spread is “cyberwar.” There is no cyberwar and we
> are not losing it. The only war going on is one for the soul of the
> internet. But if journalists, bloggers and the security industry continue to
> let self-interested exaggerators dominate our nation’s discourse about
> online security, we will lose that war — and the open internet will be its
> biggest casualty.
> *Photo: Michael McConnell, then-Director of National Intelligence, watches
> on in 2008 as President Bush announced the Protect America Act. White House
> file photo.*
>
> Read More
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/cyber-war-hype/?intcid=inform_relatedContent#ixzz0gzCb8sru
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