Thank you, H'Wood.

For frelling NOTHING.

Though this did answer one question for me. Thirteen was a robot. Makes so
much sense...

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> The 5 Worst Deaths Written for Great Characters (And Why)
>  By Travis Harder <http://www.cracked.com/members/TravisHarder> Apr 25,
> 2010 747,920 views
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> Death scenes are the kind of thing actors drool over. If your character has
> to bite it, you want to go out like William Wallace, dammit! FREEEEDOOOOM!!!
>
> But occasionally you see a character die in an abrupt, pointless way that
> seemed to have been written in as an afterthought, or even in such an
> undignified way that you suspect the writers included it as a "screw you" to
> the actor.
>
> Well, there's a reason for that.
>  #5.
> Capt. James T. Kirk
>
> William Shatner played the same character for 28 years, and inspired
> something like a religion. Somewhere, right now, a grown man is dressed in a
> Captain Kirk uniform, probably while in a crowded room next to some other
> guy dressed like a Klingon. So how did they send off the star of one of the
> most popular and lucrative franchises in entertainment history?
>
>
> Warning: May cause spontaneous uncontrollable arousal in women.
>
> The Death:
>
> They dropped a bridge on him. After decades of (sometimes shirtlessly)
> tangling with the universe's biggest baddies and boning the hottest aliens,
> Kirk leaves the mortal coil by way of subpar building construction codes.
>
> While watching *Star Trek: Generations* we *knew* something was wrong
> when, during a face-off with the movie's main bad guy with Captain Picard,
> Kirk tells Picard to hold off the bad guy for him. James T. Kirk passing the
> chance to punch a dude? That's like a heroin addict saying, "Man, can you
> shoot up my stash for me? I got an errand to run."
>
>
> An addiction is an addiction.
>
> So instead Kirk goes to fetch a remote to disable the cloak on a bunch of
> missiles Soran (the bad guy) was about to launch. The remote just so happens
> to be on a rickety bridge and, as Kirk manages to make a final act of
> disabling the cloaking system, the bridge collapses down a cliff, taking
> Kirk with it.
>
> What Really Happened:
>
> First of all, it's clear that Kirk was shoehorned into the film only
> because the suits weren't confident they could get people to watch a
> Kirk-less *Star Trek* movie (Leonard Nimoy and DeForest Kelley both
> refused to be in the 
> movie<http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek_Generations>,
> saying the crew got a perfectly good sendoff in *The Undiscovered Country*,
> a film specifically written for that purpose). Then, when the writers were
> sitting around brainstorming ideas for, you know, what to actually do with
> him, somebody said, "Why don't we kill Kirk?" (yes, that's literally what
> they said <http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek_Generations>).
>
> So, they brought Shatner and Kirk back to the franchise specifically to
> kill his ass, and thus wrote in a death for him where he... gets shot in the
> back by the bad guy.
>
> They filmed it, too:
>
> That didn't make it into the movie because test audiences felt it wasn't
> heroic enough <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111280/trivia>. So, grossly
> misunderstanding that feedback, they had a rusty bridge accidentally fall on
> him instead. Couldn't he at least been having sex with something at the
> time?
>
>
> Preferably not a bridge.
>  #4.
> Scott Summers (aka Cyclops of the X-Men)
>
> Wolverine gets all the attention, but Cyclops *is* the X-Men's field
> leader and second in command. Also, he can destroy a city block by taking
> his sunglasses off. That should count for something, right?
>
> The Death:
>
> He dies in *X-Men: The Last Stand*. Well, that makes sense. It *is* the
> last stand, after all. You see that on a poster and picture him and the rest
> of his comrades going down in some kind of universe-saving blaze of glory.
>
> Then you watch and find out he dies in the first half hour.
>
>
> Candid photo of Marsden's reaction to the script.
>
> He gets roughly five minutes of screen time, and never even suits up as
> Cyclops (even though the promotional posters clearly show him suited up
> X-Men style). Still depressed over the loss of his wife (Jean Grey, who died
> in the second film), Cyclops goes to Alkali Lake, Canada, where she died,
> despite Professor X's warnings.
>
>
> That's what you get for ignoring Patrick Stewart.
>
> At the lake, he finds a very much alive Jean Grey standing there. After
> asking the obvious question of "how are you alive?" they kiss and Cyclops
> just explodes. Well, we assume. Cyclops wasn't even granted an on-screen
> death.
>
> Then, back at the mansion, the X-Men hold a funeral for their fallen friend
> and lead-
>
> Oh, wait, no. Actually, he's never mentioned again until the end of the
> movie, where you see a brief glance of his tombstone.
>
> What Really Happened:
>
> Marsden was being unfaithful. He was cheating on the X-Men with another
> comic book franchise, *Superman*. He didn't have much time on the set of 
> *X-Men:
> The Last Stand* because he was cast in *Superman Returns*, which was
> shooting at the same 
> time<http://www.moviedeaths.com/x-men:_the_last_stand/scott__%27cyclops%27_summers/>
> .
>
>
> How could this go wrong?
>
> Rumors floated around the Internet that Cyclops' death was intentionally
> bad, as Fox was upset over Marsden's choice (*Superman Returns* was owned
> by another studio and helmed by *X-Men* 1 and 2 director Bryan Singer).
> While we are not ones to indulge in unconfirmed Internet rumors, yeah,
> that's what probably happened.
>
> The bigger question is, why would Marsden do it? Keep in mind, he didn't
> leave to *play* Superman, or Lex Luthor (possibly the only two characters
> in the *Superman* universe worth playing). No, he bailed on being Cyclops
> just to play the guy who bones Superman's girlfriend when Supe's is out of
> town. There can't be much job security in stealing Superman's girlfriend.
>
>
> I will rip off your dick and throw it into the sun.
>  #3.
> Hicks, Newt and Bishop (*Aliens*)
>
> They are three of four survivors from *Aliens* (well, including the
> android--does an android "survive" something?). The trio includes the little
> girl whose safety is the driving motivation for the entire film, and the
> robot who flew them all to salvation.
>
>
> One of them was even on the damn poster.
>
> The Deaths:
>
> These are the only people on our list to not make it out of the opening
> credits alive.
>
> In the opening minutes of *Alien 3*, while much of the audience was just
> getting back from the popcorn counter, we see an alien face-hugger running
> loose on the escape pod the heroes were sleeping in during the denouement of
> the last movie. How will the gang get out of this one?!
>
> Ah, right. They won't. The pod crashes, killing Hicks and Newt and smashing
> Bishop. Hicks was impaled by a support beam while Newt drowned when her pod
> crashed into the ocean.
>
> What Really Happened:
>
> As for Newt, the issue was age. The little girl who played Newt in *Aliens
> * had aged six years by the time the next movie was filmed and she wasn't
> acting any more (*Aliens* is the only thing she was ever in). Well, not
> having her in the movie is understandable. They didn't have to *murder a
> child* just because they didn't feel like replacing the actress.
>
>
> Happy endings don't exist in the *Alien* universe.
>
> As for the other two... there is no good answer.
>
> It's well known among sci-fi fans that the production of *Alien 3* was a
> ridiculous carnival of 
> stupidity<http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,310615_3,00.html>.
> David Fincher had been brought in at the last minute after *every single
> other director in Hollywood* had been hired and eventually fired from the
> project. At least four scripts had been written for the film, but 20th
> Century Fox didn't like any of them, so producers Walter Hill and David
> Giler took over and mashed up aspects from all the previous scripts.
>
> All of the terrible decisions that were made appear to be due to that
> random, haphazard cobbling together of story elements. They had drafts that
> didn't include Ripley at all. They had some that had Hicks as the main
> character, with Ripley in a cameo (in fact, that was the case in the last
> draft before the one that killed off 
> Hicks<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_3>
> ).
>
>
> Industry experts theorize, "God hates Michael Biehn."
>
> Thus the decision to kill him off--and reduce Bishop to a single scene
> where he talks to Ripley from a pile of garbage--appeared to be a arbitrary,
> last-minute choices made while slapping the story together. Michael Biehn
> was so pissed off by it he demanded to get the same money for the few
> seconds they used his likeness in the opening scene that he was paid to
> co-star in *Aliens*.
>
> Don't worry, Michael, we're pretty sure you got out of the franchise just
> in time.
>
>
> There are worse things than death.
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