The movie covers most of the first two storylines with a sprinkling of stuff from later in the series. So heavy spoilers ahead.
The beginning is a bit different. No kids are massacred and Max is unaware they are alive until later and then he basically puts a burn notice on them. Pooch goes home but has to leave when his brother-in-law tries to turn him in to the authorities. Max was an identity that predated the CIA and not a person. It was used for covert dirty work by high ranking intelligence personnel to run things like Iran-Contra and the like. The current Max restarted the cover and there were lots more surprises in store for the team. To say more would give away a huge twist. Movie Aisha was prwetty close to the book in some ways. She was a former child soldier from Afghan/Pakistan border region. She fought the Russians in the late stages of the Afghan war and I think in Chechnya and the Balkans. She also fought against Taliban. She and Clay had some sort of shared history She was even scarier and more capable in the book. --- In [email protected], Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > Spoilers. Questions: > > In the movie, the whole teams' faces are on the news as causing the deaths of > the children. The government assumes they're dead in the crash. Max learns > they're alive, but wants to kill them. > > In the comic, Pooch goes home, but how? isn't he presumed dead and/or wanted > by the CIA for that failed op? > In the comic, what happens to the rest of the team? > > In the end, Max is on a bus: do we assume he's still a member in good stead > of the CIA and will continue to do his thing, or is he now targeted by the > CIA as a criminal himself? > Aren't the losers still presumed dead by the rest of the CIA and the general > public? So, wouldn't showing up at the girl's soccer game cause a sensation? > Even if it gets out they're alive, aren't they still wanted by the government > for engaging in an illegal op that killed several children? > Zaldana's character, what was she? They said she was wanted all over the > world by top intelligence agencies. Is she a spy, an assassin, or is she part > of her late father's drug running scheme? I couldn't tell if she was part of > what her father did, or simply avenging his death even though she hated his > life and had no contact with him. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B Smith" <daikaij...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:19:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: "Dragon", Soars, "Losers"...Loses > > > > > > > That was added for the movie to give it a happier end. Pooch goes home in the > comic but his wife wasn't pregnant and their daughter was school aged. > > --- In [email protected] , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > Agreed, my wife and I enjoyed it thoroughly. Have you read the comic? > > I do have a question about the ending== SPOILER== > > > > they were at a soccer game in full view. Weren't they all still wanted? > > Since Patric "Max" got away, they're not cleared, right? So isn't it crazy > > to be so incredibly visible in that venue? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "B Smith" <daikaiju66@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:01:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: "Dragon", Soars, "Losers"...Loses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought the movie was great fun. The tone is lighter than the comic but > > it actually worked to the movie's advantage. The cast was solid and Chris > > Evans nearly steals the show as Jensen. > > > > And I loved Jason Patric as Max. He was old school Bond villain insane. > > "Are you standing in a hole?" The one thing I don't get is why they made > > the weapon so cartoony. That was the only thing that sort of marred my fun. > > > > --- In [email protected] , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > > > Anyone seen "How to Train Your Dragon"? I haven't had a chance yet, but > > > was impressed with the trailers. I did see "The Losers" yesterday. It's a > > > fun time waster, the cast is roundly good, and would do very well for a > > > much more serious, less over-the-top film. A couple of the story points > > > had me confused. It's based on a comic, right? Anyone here familiar with > > > the source material so I can ask a couple of questions? > > > > > > And by the way, Zoe Zaldana is fairly prominent in the film. She's not > > > bad, though I'm not as enamored of her as H'Wood increasingly seems to > > > be. > > > > > > ********************************************* > > > > > > > > > "How to Train Your Dragon" continues to breathe fire at the box office, > > > while newer releases are mostly blowing smoke. > > > > > > > > > FILE - In this file film publicity image released by Paramount Pictures, > > > Hiccup, voiced by Jay Baruchel, rides Toothless a scene is shown from > > > "How to Train Your Dragon." "How to Train Your Dragon" continues to > > > breathe fire at the box office, while newer releases are mostly blowing > > > smoke. The animated adventure took in $15 million to reclaim the No. 1 > > > spot a month after its debut. "How to Dragon Your Dragon" opened in first > > > place in late March, then dropped back into the pack. But it has held up > > > strongly and climbed to the top again amid a flurry of so-so new > > > releases. (AP Photo/Paramount Pictures, File) NO SALES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The DreamWorks Animation adventure took in $15 million to reclaim the No. > > > 1 spot in its fifth weekend of release. "How to Train Your Dragon" opened > > > in first place in late March, then dropped back into the pack. But it has > > > held up strongly and climbed to the top again amid a flurry of so-so new > > > releases. > > > > > > The tale of a Viking youth and his pet dragon raised its total to $178 > > > million and is on its way to becoming a $200 million hit. > > > > > > Premiering weakly at No. 2 with $12.3 million was Jennifer Lopez's > > > romantic comedy "The Back-up Plan," released by CBS Films. Another > > > comedy, Steve Carell and Tina Fey's "Date Night" from 20th Century Fox, > > > held up well to finish at No. 3 with $10.6 million, raising its total to > > > $63.5 million. > > > > > > Among the weekend's other newcomers, the Warner Bros. action flick "The > > > Losers" flopped at No. 4 with $9.6 million. Disney's nature film "Oceans" > > > had a solid opening for a documentary, coming in at No. 8 with $6 > > > million. > > > > > > "How to Train Your Dragon" nearly regained the No. 1 spot the previous > > > weekend but wound up a close second to Lionsgate's superhero comedy > > > "Kick-Ass." In its second weekend, "Kick-Ass" slumped to No. 5 with $9.5 > > > million, down 52 percent from its debut, lifting its total to $34.9 > > > million. > > > > > > Revenues for "How to Train Your Dragon" were off a scant 23 percent from > > > the previous weekend. > > > > > > "To be No. 1 in week five, it's an exciting time," said Anne Globe, head > > > of marketing for DreamWorks Animation. "Especially to be decisively No. 1 > > > after last weekend's box-office shenanigans." > > > > > > The box office had ended in rare photo finishes for two straight weekends > > > as movies bunched up tightly in the rankings. Though "How to Train Your > > > Dragon" was the clear winner this time, top movies again were crowded > > > closely together as the weekend's newcomers failed to grab much > > > attention. > > > > > > Overall Hollywood revenues should top out at about $100 million, the > > > lowest-grossing weekend of the year, said Paul Dergarabedian, box-office > > > analyst for Hollywood.com. > > > > > > Fans may simply be watching their finances amid the slow economic > > > recovery, saving their money for the onslaught of summer blockbusters > > > that starts May 7 with "Iron Man 2." > > > > > > "They may be saying, 'I want to see big summer movies, so I'm just going > > > to wait,'" Dergarabedian said. "Then suddenly, we're going to have this > > > massive weekend when 'Iron Man 2' opens after we've had these mediocre > > > weekends." > > > > > > While "The Back-up Plan" opened weakly, CBS Films was hoping it would > > > hold up well in subsequent weekends, as romantic comedies often do. > > > > > > "Jennifer Lopez's films have great legs, as does she," said Steven > > > Friedlander, head of distribution for CBS Films. > > > > > > "The Back-up Plan" stars Lopez as a single woman who gets pregnant > > > through artificial insemination, then meets the man of her dreams. > > > > > > "The Losers," whose cast includes "Avatar" co-star Zoe Saldana, is a > > > comic-book adaptation about a Special Forces team looking for payback > > > after a mission goes bad. > > > > > > Narrated by Pierce Brosnan, "Oceans" offers up-close glimpses of blue > > > whales, walruses, sea turtles, spider crabs and other aquatic life. Since > > > opening on Earth Day Thursday, "Oceans" has taken in $8.5 million. > > > > > > "Oceans" played in narrower release than other new movies, averaging > > > $4,975 in 1,206 theaters, a fair result for a documentary. By comparison, > > > "The Back-up Plan" averaged $3,735 in 3,280 theaters and "The Losers" > > > averaged $3,271 in 2,936 cinemas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian > > > theaters, according to Hollywood.com. Final figures will be released > > > Monday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. "How to Train Your Dragon," $15 million. > > > > > > 2. "The Back-up Plan," $12.3 million. > > > > > > 3. "Date Night," $10.6 million. > > > > > > 4. "The Losers," $9.6 million. > > > > > > 5. "Kick-Ass," $9.5 million. > > > > > > 6. "Clash of the Titans," $9 million. > > > > > > 7. "Death at a Funeral," $8 million. > > > > > > 8. "Oceans," $6 million. > > > > > > 9. "The Last Song," $3.7 million. > > > > > > 10. "Alice in Wonderland," $2.2 million. > > > > > >
