I agree with you, Keith. That's what I want out of FX, for them to be complimentary to a movie, not the main feature.
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: > > > But see, I was immersed in the Avatar world completely, due to the 3D. I > thrilled to see plants looking more real, animals off to the sides of the > screens looking realistic, the depth given to the live action scenes. Again, > it was immersive but not overwhelming. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 3, 2010 2:18:49 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 3-D movies scheduled to come out in 2010 > > > > What I'm getting at here is that 3d is supposed to be a immersion process > that pulls you into the world and story. What I see happening is currently > it only does a partial job. > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Keith Johnson > <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: > >> >> >> Not so sure I think so. I sat there "oohing" and "aahhing" with its usage >> in "Avatar". in time I quit focusing on it, but its effect was still there. >> Directors and FX people always say that, if the audience spends all their >> time commenting on how cool the effects are, they've actually done a poor >> job. The goal is to wow the audience, but make the effect a part of the >> experience as a whole, not something the audience keeps focusing on >> exclusively. If you keep saying "awesome 3D!", then the film isn't >> successful in pulling you into that world; rather, it's been successful in >> keeping you from being fully immersed as you comment on it. >> It'd be akin to audiences in the '50s getting used to Technicolor. once >> they accepted it, it became a part of the fabric of movies. If they spent >> all their time talking about how cool it was, it's a distraction. >> I think Cameron's got it right, and if we go too much on the "wow" factor, >> it will take 3D down the wrong path. We'll get the equivalent of Michael Bay >> films, where the FX and sound and action are over-the-top and bludgeon us, >> rather than enfold us. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2010 2:43:52 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 3-D movies scheduled to come out in 2010 >> >> >> >> >> I think that if 3d is to be "the next great thing" that it needs to be >> pushed into the next level to make you say "Ooo! Ahhh! AWESOME!!!" >> >> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Keith Johnson >> <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Actually, Cameron has said many times that "Avatar" was conceived of as a >>> 3D movie. It was the lack of that tech--along with the motion capture tech >>> and the ability to do realistic CGI--that delayed the movie by over a >>> decade. He helped create new 3D technology with the WETA team, and spent a >>> lot of time during production making sure the 3D glasses wouldn't hurt >>> people's eyes. I think the irony is that, though he conceived of "Avatar" as >>> a 3D film, to his mind that meant not making the 3D be too intrusive. He >>> uses it to enhance the experience, and in a lot of ways I found it more >>> powerful for just that reason. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:38:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 3-D movies scheduled to come out in 2010 >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't think that there has been any movies that have specifically been >>> written for 3d format. Even Avatar just has a few shots that had extra >>> "twinkles" in it in some parts and some wide shots. We probably won't see a >>> true 3d movie until another year or two from now. If at all. >>> >>> I think the director of "The Science of Sleep" may be close to writing >>> that way. >>> >>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And the critical question is, how many of these films were conceived, >>>> written, and filmed for 3D from the get-go? Even when they are, the overall >>>> effect may be iffy, but if they are converted in the middle of the process >>>> they're most certainly not going to be worth the extra dough... >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "brent wodehouse" <brent_wodeho...@thefence.us> >>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 2:59:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>>> Subject: [scifinoir2] 3-D movies scheduled to come out in 2010 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/movies+scheduled+come+2010/2971901/story.html >>>> >>>> 3-D movies scheduled to come out in 2010 >>>> >>>> By Brendan Kelly, The Gazette April 30, 2010 >>>> >>>> Shrek Forever After: May 21 >>>> >>>> Toy Story 3: June 18 >>>> >>>> The Last Airbender: July 2 >>>> >>>> Despicable Me: July 9 >>>> >>>> Cats & Dogs: Revenge of Kitty Galore: July 30 >>>> >>>> Step Up 3D: Aug. 6 >>>> >>>> Friday the 13th Part 2: Aug. 13 >>>> >>>> Piranha 3D: Aug. 27 >>>> >>>> Resident Evil: Afterlife: Sept. 10 >>>> >>>> Legends of the Guardians: Owls of Ga’hoole: Sept. 24 >>>> >>>> Alpha and Omega: Oct. 1 >>>> >>>> Jackass 3D: Oct. 15 >>>> >>>> Saw VII: Oct. 22 >>>> >>>> Megamind: Nov. 5 >>>> >>>> Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Part 1): Nov. 19 >>>> >>>> Tangled: Nov. 24 >>>> >>>> The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader: Dec. 10 >>>> >>>> Tron Legacy: Dec. 17 >>>> >>>> Yogi Bear: Dec. 17 >>>> >>>> Gulliver’s Travels: Dec. 22 >>>> >>>> © Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>> Mahogany at: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
