amen! 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bosco Bosco" <ironpi...@yahoo.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:23:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 






It's funny that they weren't worried about the constitution when habeas corpus 
was suspended. The fundamental right that is the basis of democracy and freedom 
was destroyed and they couldn't be bothered to utter a sound. 

Teabaggers are proof that democracy is doomed. Democracy depends on an educated 
and self interested population. Teabaggers are merely the most vocal of a 
deeply stupid majority that are hell bent to destroy everything any intelligent 
person holds sacred through willful destructive ignorance. 

I am officially sanctioning intellectual facism. 

Bosco 

--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net> 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 12:11 AM 






Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the Constitution" . 
I keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the Constitution. Even 
some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued started under 
Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses, wiretaps, etc., 
which come way closer to violate the Constitution than anything Obama's 
initiated. 
There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward Obama 
at the root of much of this. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mr. Worf" <HelloMahogany@ gmail.com> 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 






You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here since 
Cinco de Mayo. 

Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!" 
Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?" 
Old woman - blank stare... 
Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking away??" 




On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net > 
wrote: 






See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like Palin. 
You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying Obama wants 
to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping statement. 
It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to say "A pure dee 
lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this that are pure lies? 
Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns. Even if he did want to 
restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of doing--it's not the same 
thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks, for Christ's sake--something 
I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's the most pro-abortion President 
ever. Again, how is such lying permitted? 
But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and when 
presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I still 
believe that's his goal". 

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http://news. yahoo.com/ s/ap/20100515/ ap_on_el_ ge/us_palin 

Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 



CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday that 
President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and told a separate 
gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this November, 
sweeping away the Democratic agenda. 

Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate , told National Rifle 
Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping 
Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political backlash. 

"Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with it, 
they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment," said 
Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun range in 
Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to stop them in 
their tracks." 

Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under a 
Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has largely 
been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or strengthening 
background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law allowing people to 
carry loaded guns in national parks. 

Palin, the GOP 's 2008 vice presidential nominee , also praised tea party 
activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that the 
movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before adding: "I don't 
really have a problem with the redneck part of it, to tell you the truth." 

She proceeded to read several redneck jokes off her phone and talked about how 
she could relate to some of them. 

During an event earlier Friday in Washington sponsored by an anti-abortion 
group, she challenged Republican women to help the GOP "take this country back" 
and elect anti-abortion lawmakers. She praised female leaders of the tea party 
movement and invoked the 2008 acceptance speech where she compared herself to a 
pit bull. 

"You don't want to mess with moms who are rising up," Palin said at the Susan 
B. Anthony List event. "If you thought pit bulls were tough, you don't want to 
mess with mama grizzlies." 

Palin said she understood how some women might consider abortion, citing her 
own experiences as the mother of a child with Down syndrome and the parent of 
an unwed teen mother. Last year, Palin said that "for a fleeting moment" she 
considered having an abortion when she learned of her son Trig's prognosis. 

But she said Friday that abortion is morally wrong and women should carry a 
fetus to term. 

"It may not be the easiest path, but it's always the right path," she said. 

She said Obama is "the most pro-abortion president ever to occupy the White 
House" and asserted that the health care law would fund abortions. 

In fact, Obama's health care law would not allow federal dollars to pay for 
elective abortions. Catholic hospitals and organizations of Catholic nuns 
backed the measure. U.S. Catholic bishops and major anti-abortion groups 
opposed it, arguing that federal dollars could end up paying for abortions. 

Stephanie Schriock, president of EMILY's List , said Palin talks a good game, 
but her version of what American women want doesn't honor freedom and 
independence. She mentioned the Democratic lawmakers whom Palin had targeted 
for their votes for health care overhaul . 

"First she puts targets on their back, then she wants the government in their 
bedrooms — what is Sarah Palin doing to Western women?" said Schriock. EMILY'S 
List helps candidates who back abortion rights. 

Palin also criticized the media, singling out their coverage of her daughter 
Bristol, whose pregnancy was announced days after Palin was named the vice 
presidential nominee . Bristol Palin is a single mother who works on an 
abstinence-only campaign. 

She said some young women would see what happened to Bristol and perhaps be 
encouraged to seek an abortion instead of facing similar criticism. 

Palin also said Friday that the United States should continue to drill for oil 
despite the Gulf spill. She made the comments in an interview with ABC News. 






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